I ordered wheels with ET38, and these rubbed on the inner arch liners with my 40mm drop when I had any passengers, so I had to remove the liners. Then it was ok, but the wheels looked far too far in under the large Clio arches. So I fitted 10mm spacers (making ET28) to all 4 wheels and now they look ace. The wheels sit level with the edge of the arches and I get no rubbing even with ICE and passengers. No need to be so rude!