What would you do?

[GazzaCup]

No interest in this recent post.

https://cliosport.net/threads/clio-...ull-cage-track-sprint-£4800-de55-area.832481/

What would you do with it if it was yours?

Options

• Reduce Price (whats it worth)
• Make road legal and sell (whats it worth)
• Keep it for 10 years in the corner of the garage

Cheers

 

[GazzaCup]

Another option, track the hell out of it until its dead?

 

[David Stuart]

It’s probably worth what you are asking but personally I would change a few things which would make it appeal more and sell easier.

1) remove the stickers. As long as you can do this without damaging paint it will have far greater appeal.
2) put a better set of wheels on it. Net it might cost you a few hundred quid but those wheels do nothing for it in their condition and without centre caps.
3) get the headlights sorted out.

You will always find it easier to move on with an MOT.

If you don’t want to do that stuff you will have to lower the price to sell it on.


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[the_baron_von_richthofen]

I think you would have a broader audience to sell to if it was road legal.

I didnt see any mention of service history so that would be worth putting up and I may be wrong on this but I thought the cam belt changes were every 5 years so it is due next year which is something people have to consider.

I think from my own view I wouldn't look to pay that kind of money for a 182 that is/has been a track car.

Also, dont forget that times are very strange at the moment and I should imagine most people will hold back on spending until jobs etc. are more stable.

 

[leeds_182]

I personally think it’s overpriced for a standard engined car with no mot where the belts are due in 6 months.

Id personally break it Or track the hell out of it.

 

[jameswrx]

Don’t take offence...

but to me I don’t understand why these track cars are worth more than a road car.

In some way you’ve ruined the car to most of the market and asking twice the retail price.

Other marques, a stripped out, caged, bonnet pin’d version would be worth a load less. For some reason Clios double in price. I joked with my friend (who also has a 172) that my really clean 172 is worth a grand but if I rip the interior out, fit a suede wheel & put a cage in I could ask 4 times as much.

And I know that’s a simplistic view as exact mods are dear etc.

For me if I wanted a track 172 I’d expect to pay normal 172 value plus what the roll cage would cost used. Most other mods could have been done on a road car and have no increase on its value.

 

[David Stuart]

Don’t take offence...

but to me I don’t understand why these track cars are worth more than a road car.

In some way you’ve ruined the car to most of the market and asking twice the retail price.

Other marques, a stripped out, caged, bonnet pin’d version would be worth a load less. For some reason Clios double in price. I joked with my friend (who also has a 172) that my really clean 172 is worth a grand but if I rip the interior out, fit a suede wheel & put a cage in I could ask 4 times as much.

To be fair. A cage seats harnesses and steering wheels all cost money. That’s before you get to coilovers and other performance mods.

These are prime track day cars just now. Someone will pay to get one that is already sorted.

Once everyone has killed them on track days and there are none left, a good condition road car will be worth double what any track car is worth just now.


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[jameswrx]

To be fair. A cage seats harnesses and steering wheels all cost money. That’s before you get to coilovers and other performance mods.

These are prime track day cars just now. Someone will pay to get one that is already sorted.

Once everyone has killed them on track days and there are none left, a good condition road car will be worth double what any track car is worth just now.


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Yeah I do agree and if someone wants a track car they’ll know what they have to pay.

It’s probably the fact it was a rare colour, low mileage car that’s making things conflicted to me.

Prob would be worth strong money all stock but nobody wanting that car for what it was will buy it and nobody wanting a track car will care what it was (if that makes sense?)

I guess what I mean is it doesn’t warrant being expensive compared to say a black or blue average mileage track car as it’s maybe a moot point for people buying track cars?

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

Where's it for sale ? Just here ?

Everyone that wants a Clio has one... It's a Clio forum.

It's also the middle of a pandemic.

Not sure exactly how long you've had it but why have you not done more track days or events ?!

Baffles me why people spend time and money making something so specific and then never doing what they wanted it for in the first place.

Like buying a flat in Spain and going to Centre parcs every year instead...

Also, half the fun is doing the work to most people that want a car like this.. I'd rather buy a 100k car for £1k and do stuff myself rather than assume your handwork is any good. If you'd done dozens of track days and race seasons, I'd be confident it had been done properly but it seems never to have been used which seems odd.

 

[R3k1355]

I personally think it’s overpriced for a standard engined car with no mot where the belts are due in 6 months.

Id personally break it Or track the hell out of it.

This.

Looks rough for 56,000 miles.

 

[Matt W]

if your son was at home, Crying all alone on the bedroom floor, 'cause he's hungry?

 

[Darren61]

Take some better pics would be a good start.

if I’m being honest, it doesn’t look in great shape. A little freshen up here and there (engine bay) and some decent pics would help

 

[bashracing]

Get an interior
mot
change wheels
detail it
you might get £5k or £5.5k if belts are done

you need to spend around £1k to bring up to the above sale standard or £1.5k if doing belts and a service as well.

You can't really sell it without a test as that reduces 95% of the market that don't have a trailer and can't be arsed to sort a transporter to pick it up, the remaining 5% will be clued up and wanting a bargain for making the effort of going to have a look at something with a trailer on the back

 

[David Stuart]

Get an interior
mot
change wheels
detail it
you might get £5k or £5.5k if belts are done

you need to spend around £1k to bring up to the above sale standard or £1.5k if doing belts and a service as well.

You can't really sell it without a test as that reduces 95% of the market that don't have a trailer and can't be arsed to sort a transporter to pick it up, the remaining 5% will be clued up and wanting a bargain for making the effort of going to have a look at something with a trailer on the back

What I said then. [emoji23]

And remove the stickers. They do nothing for it. Especially since it’s such a nice rare colour.


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[bashracing]

What I said then. [emoji23]

And remove the stickers. They do nothing for it. Especially since it’s such a nice rare colour.


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No one ever reads the previous replies on CS

 

[plenty]

If you're only advertising here then you're not targeting the right people.

A lot of people here prefer standard cars and originality. I'd suggest posting on the specialist track-car-for-sale groups on Facebook.

And as others have mentioned, change the wheels, spend an hour cleaning up the engine bay, MoT it, get some better pics taken (Inferno is a great colour but it looks pretty terrible in your pics), and tighten up the advertisement copy. You're asking close to £5k when others are asking £3-4k. Make it really clear why your car is different, and worth the money. Yours is one of the lowest-mileage cars on the market but the advert and the presentation really don't do it justice.

And be patient - you just need one buyer, but it might take some time for that buyer to come along. I'd expect to wait 3-4 months to sell at that price.

 

[Martin_172]

if your son was at home, Crying all alone on the bedroom floor, 'cause he's hungry?

beat me too it I was on youtube searching for the video to link!!!!!


personally I would tidy it up, don't take this the wrong way but considering its low miles the engine bay looks horrible, give it a clean, paint the inlets, get a fuse box cover on it. Headlights need a polish, remove the stickers and clean up the exterior, that list will cost at a rough guess about £15!

price is a hard thing to gauge on them in this spec/condition. They are getting to the age people are starting to want mint road cars to enjoy. Track cars while built for a purpose are pretty much a "ruined" road car

 

[Clio_fool]

I saw the advert ages ago and my first thought was that would be worth the money as a standard car any day of the week. I'd strip the track parts out and source an interior and mot it to maximise your return. Depends how desperate you are to shift it and how much you want.

 

[GazzaCup]

Thanks everyone.

Some feedback from me on comments

Like most have said, it's in a bit of a limbo state. Not a race car, Not a low mileage road car.
If I had a time machine I would leave it as the mint condition standard car it was back when I started.
Time and family commitments always change, trackdays are fun but so is driving on a sunny evening to the chip shop. Priorities change.

Plan A

• Put more effort into pictures
• Give it a good clean and remove decals
• Change wheels.
• Lower price and see if it sells.

Plan B

• All above
• Get carpets and fit a second seat.
• Mot the car
• Try again

 

[Darren61]

Plan B then...

 

[R3k1355]

Why doesn't plan A involve an MOT as well?

 

[Pistachio]

if your son was at home, Crying all alone on the bedroom floor, 'cause he's hungry?

My mind went here