Wheel bolt size for use with spacers

[ScarySquirrel]

Hi all,

I'm about to purchase some spacers, these ones: http://www.venommotorsport.com/product_details.php?id=3247&manufacturer=FK&category=Wheel

At the front of my car there is about 19mm on each side gap from the widest part of the top of the wheel/tyre, therefore a total track width gap of 38mm. Therefore I am going to purchase for the front the System B Centric 30mm spacers (15mm each side). As I understand it, this system comes with bolts which allows me to bolt the spacer onto the hub, then I just fit my front wheels to the spacers using my current bolts; correct?

At the rear, there is about 10mm gap on each side, total track width gap of 20mm. Therefore I will be buying 10mm (5mm each side) spacers, however they only have the option of System A spacers. Therefore I think I need to buy longer wheel bolts.

I have Trophy Turinis, so what length bolt will I need, does anyone know?

Thanks.

 

[mr.pink87]

5mm longer than your actual ones

 

[ScarySquirrel]

Sorry, just done some searching and it seems 5mm on each side you can get away with using current bolts; so it looks like if I buy what I suggested about I'll be all good

Confirmation from anyone in the know would be great though

 

[172Ben]

i used 5mm, and bought 22mm threaded bolts from eBay.

 

[GeorgeH]

Well standard size is 26mm, was on my 1.2 and 1.6 so guessing its the same on a sport? But yes 5mm spacers are fine with standard bolts. Oh btw if you use 15mm bolt to hub spacers your normal bolts will be to long and foul the disc so youll need shorter bolts to bolt the wheel to spacer.

 

[ScarySquirrel]

Well standard size is 26mm, was on my 1.2 and 1.6 so guessing its the same on a sport? But yes 5mm spacers are fine with standard bolts. Oh btw if you use 15mm bolt to hub spacers your normal bolts will be to long and foul the disc so youll need shorter bolts to bolt the wheel to spacer.

Oh for Christ's sake! Serious?

Whenever it comes to me looking into this I end up getting annoyed, then when I see my car and see how far in the wheels are in makes me come back for more, it's doing my head in!

Any idea what size shorter bolts I'll need?

 

[GeorgeH]

Im sure someone used 20mm bolts with 15mm hub centrics. Demontweeks are good for bolts. Alternatively get 15mm hubcentrics and longer bolts, these type dont bolt to hub. Or get 20mm hubcentrics bolt to hub and i think standard bolts are fine with these.

 

[ScarySquirrel]

I'm going to go with Eibach ones from Larkspeed I think:

For rear: http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?p=SP9S90105003&a=i
For front: http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?p=SP52S90215014&a=i

So this means I'll need longer bolts for the front; I just need to work out how much longer as I don't actually know how long my current bolts are.

 

[mr.pink87]

Take one out and measure?

 

[ScarySquirrel]

According to this post: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...cer-question&p=5227361&viewfull=1#post5227361

Standard bolt length is 24mm, therefore with 15mm spacers on each side, I'll need a 39mm bolt.

Larkspeed have these, which are perfect!
http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?p=361SB14&a=i

I think I might be getting somewhere!!!!

 

[GeorgeH]

Ok venom motorsport are cheaper. So are demontweeks. Well standards are 26 so add 15mm. I think 39mm was the closest i got too. Bolts are m12x1.5 60degree fixed seat. Again dt are about £1.22

 

[ScarySquirrel]

Ok venom motorsport are cheaper. So are demontweeks. Well standards are 26 so add 15mm. I think 39mm was the closest i got too. Bolts are m12x1.5 60degree fixed seat. Again dt are about £1.22

I'm looking at the Eibachs on Larkspeed as it says the 10mm ones for the rear are hubcentric (without a centre collar), whereas the FK ones on Venom are not hubcentric it seems.

So standard bolt is 24mm or 26mm? I would measure myself but my Jack is at my Mum's house.

 

[GeorgeH]

Just take one out, no need for a jack.

Vemon do eibach fk and h&r.


Youll have to ring dt.

Im getting rid of my 8mm fk spacers soon with longer bolts if thats easier lol.

H&r are cheaper and great. Just read the system types on venom to give you an idea.

 

[GeorgeH]

Just ring dt, cheapest for eibach spacers.

 

[ScarySquirrel]

Ok I'll give them a call now, thanks.

 

[James28]

You won't get hubcentric spacers at 10mm each side.
Hub sticks out too far iirc.

Don't forget to ask about CS discount at Demon Tweaks. Look on the discount page at the top!

 

[ScarySquirrel]

DemonTweeks cost:

30mm front = £82.40
16mm rear = £35.05

He did comment on why I had larger ones at the front, which now I think of it is a bit odd, but it's just from measuring the gap between wheel and arch.

 

[James28]

Can't see the problem having different sized ones, as you said.
I had 20mm each side front and 15mm each side rear on my non sport

 

[ScarySquirrel]

I suppose it's only 1.4cm difference, and the rear track is already slightly wider, so shouldn't be too bad. I'm going to order it all tomorrow and hope for the best!

 

[ScarySquirrel]

Hurrah, finally all ordered.

I've gone for FK; 15mm each side front and 8mm each side rear. I measured the standard bolts and they're 24mm, so I've just added 15mm and 8mm for the replacement bolts.

Thanks for everyone's help.