which engine management (ecu) for williams

[HGV 16V]

anyone have any idea which ecu i can use for a williams cos while on the rolling road the bloke told me if i want 2 go for real power im gonna need a stand alone enging management system as i wanna turbo it he sais dont get chips for power get a complete different ecu just wondering if any one can help? and if anyone knows where 2 get one from etc

anyone lol thanks

 

[Fred@BTM]

oooh this thread will be fun!

i say emerald

 

[HGV 16V]

lol emerald that a ecu lol if so who makes it? n ys it special lol
cheers m8

 

[mini-valver]

Depends on how much you want to spend.
I'm going to be using VEMS, highly regarded with Angelworks and relavitely cheap. www.vems.co.uk

 

[HGV 16V]

fair play i may b a mechanic but always willing 2 learn as far as im concerned a ecu holds the fixed settings 4 a car a chip rewrights that so another ecu can b wrighten on and ova so wot makes one different 2 another surley one blank ecu that can b written and re written r the same as another lol???? any idea?

 

[Fred@BTM]

http://www.emeraldm3d.com/em_k3.html
http://www.omextechnology.co.uk/
http://www.dtafast.co.uk/

 

[Ali]

Dastek then you'll ease past the WRX!

 

[n0rm]

ive got pectel p8 ecu top stuff

 

[Fred@BTM]

^you're rich though

 

[HGV 16V]

lol fair play cheers ppl

 

[Fred@BTM]

ring Chris http://www.torqueofthedevil.com/ they do loads

 

[n0rm]

^you're rich though

i wish buddy

 

[Fred@BTM]

i'm putting the price up on the mirrors as we speak

 

[n0rm]

i'm putting the price up on the mirrors as we speak

now now b**ch put them up....................i'll still have them

 

[holly1_7_2]

if the williams is your road car make sure you that the ecu is e approved and road legal as something like vem's is not therefore this will invalidate any insurance claim from an accident as it is not road legal

 

[Fred@BTM]

no offence, but how do you know that?

 

[2 live]

just get ur oe ecu mapped properly. wayne at chip wizards is the man.

 

[Dash]

Would have thought a BBC B Micron should be ample for a williams.

 

[RSTuning]

Standard ecu all day long, very simple control, easy to calibrate to other mods and will give performance as good as any stand alone. Only jump to other ecu's if you have really wild cams or itb's

 

[holly1_7_2]

no offence, but how do you know that?

i do a lot of research on my products before buying them

 

[r516vt]

no offence, but how do you know that?

i do a lot of research on my products before buying them

Can you tell us which ECU's are approved and road legal for UK use?

 

[n0rm]

i carnt see how it matters, at the end of the day, a standalone item it far more advanced that any o-e spec item, if your running a s/a system, your cars not gonna be standard is it!! so if insurers wanted to be funny there gonna picking on more noticeable things than a standalone ecu!!

thats my view anyway but holly may be right

 

[Fred@BTM]

no offence, but how do you know that?

i do a lot of research on my products before buying them

what have you had done to your car?

 

[n0rm]

fluffy dice?!

 

[edde]

Holly is right you should have a road legal type and there very few which are but arguing if you can use them I don't see as an issue if you've all the mods declaired and a garage fits the ECU then its the fauly for not checking even if you do it yourself I don't see any issue with insurance with one so long as the mods are declaired including it running a stand alone ECU.

As for what type to use there laods toc hoice few tunners or people can agree on one to use even for the same applications and price. Personaly I'd go with what your local experts or who you'll use are and there reputation for there recomendations. Whichever you use people will say theres a better/cheaper one which they use.

Stand alone has its disadvanatges anyway though intigration into the car for starters.

 

[holly1_7_2]

i do a lot of research on my products before buying them

what have you had done to your car?

brakes, coilovers, inlet manifold, itg and an exhaust was about to get a remap but bigger and better things are now hatching

 

[fmp_]

Omex are 'E' approved.

and i beleive Motec are too (tho dont quote me on that).

 

[holly1_7_2]

Omex are 'E' approved.

and i beleive Motec are too (tho dont quote me on that).

yes they are

 

[Fred@BTM]

but as far as i know e approved on an ecu is only to do with electrical "noise"

i dunno, richard???

 

[holly1_7_2]

found from a tuning website:
Insurance companies, like dealers, use different methods of discovery when it comes to remapping. Some use dealer computers to inspect the ECU while others physically open the ECU to inspect the soldering on the chip. Because no physical changes are made detection is kept to a minimum. We advise you to inform your insurance company of any modifications you make to your car, including remapping.

 

[ditz]

but as far as i know e approved on an ecu is only to do with electrical "noise"

i dunno, richard???

i was under the same impression, in the same way that you would find say a head unit is e approved.

 

[n0rm]

found from a tuning website:
Insurance companies, like dealers, use different methods of discovery when it comes to remapping. Some use dealer computers to inspect the ECU while others physically open the ECU to inspect the soldering on the chip. Because no physical changes are made detection is kept to a minimum. We advise you to inform your insurance company of any modifications you make to your car, including remapping.

totally agree holly, imo if your gonna tune a car anybody who does not declair the modifcations to there insurers are damn right fools

but correct if im wrong insurers just insure what you have, they dont check if there 'E' approved??

 

[rs250nut]

You guys worrie to much, i would never buy something like that if i was worried about it being e marked, I would be more conserned about what the product can do than weather or not it is e marked.

 

[holly1_7_2]

CE marking is a declaration by the manufacturer that the product meets all the appropriate provisions of the relevant legislation implementing certain European Directives.

It is to ensure that the componants within the ecu dont interfere with any other of the cars componant's. But its abit like aftermarket light's, if they are not e approved they are not road legal so have to be removed!

 

[holly1_7_2]

found from a tuning website:
Insurance companies, like dealers, use different methods of discovery when it comes to remapping. Some use dealer computers to inspect the ECU while others physically open the ECU to inspect the soldering on the chip. Because no physical changes are made detection is kept to a minimum. We advise you to inform your insurance company of any modifications you make to your car, including remapping.

totally agree holly, imo if your gonna tune a car anybody who does not declair the modifcations to there insurers are damn right fools

but correct if im wrong insurers just insure what you have, they dont check if there 'E' approved??

but if its not e approved then its not road legal therefore its an illegal modification which invalidates your insurance

 

[n0rm]

totally agree holly, imo if your gonna tune a car anybody who does not declair the modifcations to there insurers are damn right fools

but correct if im wrong insurers just insure what you have, they dont check if there 'E' approved??

but if its not e approved then its not road legal therefore its an illegal modification which invalidates your insurance

thanks for that, that something i didnt know, its a good job my set up is 'e' approved- mind saying that theres noyhing left in my car that the standalone could interfere with LOL

 

[rs250nut]

totally agree holly, imo if your gonna tune a car anybody who does not declair the modifcations to there insurers are damn right fools

but correct if im wrong insurers just insure what you have, they dont check if there 'E' approved??

but if its not e approved then its not road legal therefore its an illegal modification which invalidates your insurance

So all the muppets running around with bent lexus style light as most of these are not e marked, can i go and grass them up to old bill as there insurance is invalid.

 

[ditz]

It is to ensure that the componants within the ecu dont interfere with any other of the cars componant's. But its abit like aftermarket light's, if they are not e approved they are not road legal so have to be removed!

dont get me wrong i'm not arguing with you, but is that not because that particular law about headlights being illegal if not e marked is only because that is then part of the mot test?
ie mot failure if not e marked, not nessecerily just because of the fact they arent e marked alone?

 

[Fred@BTM]

so all cars running megasquirt, emerald, any other non e marked ecu thats driving on a uk road with tax and MOT and insurance shouldn't be?

i find that hard to believe

 

[n0rm]

so all cars running megasquirt, emerald, any other non e marked ecu thats driving on a uk road with tax and MOT and insurance shouldn't be?

i find that hard to believe

mega squirt is a feeble setup anyway...................i wouldnt be seen dead running that heap of s**t system


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