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Which is the best phase willy, 1, 2 or 3
- Thread starter spirez
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I went for the 2 as it was the newest I could get without the sunroof.
As I was going to be spending a fair bit of mulla on a low milage one the very very small possibility of roof creases caused by the sunroof put me off the 3.
The 1 was out as I wanted the newest.
But the best you can find is the way to go I reckon!
I would say be open-minded about which one to go for. Although there are slight visual differences between each, theyre mechanically the same car. I recently bought mine and was really after a Williams 2 as they look more modern than the original Williams (which has Phase1 trim), yet dont have the sunroof or ABS of the Williams 3.
But, the Willy is a very rare car! When it came down to it, I was buying on mileage and condition. Believe me that you dont have much choice of mint cars, let alone of a particular Willy, 2 or 3! I settled for an original Williams (no. 123) as it was a genuine low mileage car in great condition. Its a bit less modern-looking and noisier than a Willy 2 or 3, but it is one of the originals and its still a beautiful car. The 449 Sports Blue paint is still stunning after all these years and catches the sun very nicely (goes purpley).
Youll be getting a classic whichever Willy you go for!
Briefly:
Williams The original homologation special. 400 numbered RHD cars. Phase1 trim with no sunroof or ABS (because rally cars dont have them), manual mirrors and less soundproofing. Colour: 449 Sports Blue.
Williams 2 Phase2 with more modern trim, soundproofing and electric mirrors. Otherwise the same as Williams and no sunroof/ABS. About 400 RHD examples.
Williams 3 Another Phase2. As Willy 2, but with sunroof, ABS and brighter Monaco Blue paintwork. About 400 examples.
I saw this one advertised for sale and just had to comment... the "must be best availiable" bit, well now since i have a near immaculate williams 3 with only 20k on the clock wont it be me having the best one out there, HE HE HE...
Its a tough one between choosing a williams, i luv the williams 3 just cos of the colour but a original williams 1 would be nothing but a collectors item... saying that they all are
Preferably as with most clios i find the best one would be nothing more than a collection of all 3 rolled into 1... unfortunatly theres three to choose from so just take ur pick and make sure u get a gud en!
Yeah i went to see this one, loads of scratches/dings, no 3 badge on boot, obv been sprayed. Bit of rust inside the boot, bonnet was a bit patchy, dodgy spray job?. No rust on arches though, and drove spot on, and had been serviced perfect.
Ive looked at 6 willy 3s, getting tired of looking at immaculate ones that are not.
TT 225
I dont think its a case of 1,2 or 3. As its been said before - look for the best condition one you can find. Re: reliability and choosing a 3 - theres only 12 months in it Maximum between a 2 and a 3!
My willy 2 is my daily drive, and its been superb. For sale shortly tho, and Ill miss it loads
Or you could get a Willy 1 on a P plate,...........just like me
Spirez - some Williams were not registered when new and were used on trade plates or kept in showrooms.
Dont want to start an ABS-or-not debate, but youll find that most hot hatches of the time didnt have ABS. In fact, the original Williams didnt have ABS as rally cars dont have it (nor a sunroof!).
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