Will using to many waxes

[D1CKY]

Does anyone know if using to many and different kinds of waxes on top of each other reduce the overall finish ?

Like dulling my paint work ?



The reason i ask is a local forum i go on i posted a few pics of my car with Collinites 476 on it then listed the other waxes i have applied in last 4-5 months and someone said this.

Heres what i posted regarding what i have applied to car in last 4-5 months.

Megiuars Quik Clay
2 coats of Ag Super Resin Polish
2 coats of Ag Extra Gloss Protection (24 hours apart)
2 coats of Poorboys Nattys Blue (Weeks apart)
P21's Carnauba wax about 5 times (Weeks apart)
Collinites 476s twice. (Weeks apart)

Heres the reply by a fellow forum member :S

"Sounds like heaps of protection but i bet with all that different LSPs on the car its prob muted any metal flake the car had!"

and i asked what he meant and here was reply

"Too much wax can(depending on the brands) can cause yellowing or fogging and will dull down any metallic finish underneath.
I would be concerned about mixing all the different LSP`s you have put on.
Do they react well together etc?
I am sure the Gurus from polished Bliss will clarify if i am right or wrong

I would find one LSP you like and stick with it or remove previous stuff and start with another one"

What you's guys think ?

Could he be right ?

 

[BREMBO]

Looks amazing mate

 

[MRBILLYUK]

I always layer mine with different waxes . At the moment its got Collinite 845 over collinite 476 . Before that it had CG Petes 53 and CG 50/50 , and that was topped up with CG Blitz sealant .It never makes a difference on Arctic blue layering waxes . Out of all them the 476 is the worst on and off , the 845 is an absolute piece of piss on and off and the most durable for winter imo .

 

[Sarah]

urs looks sweet..........cant say that that 'layering' has caused it to fog from them pics

 

[Leeshez]

Looks good too me.

 

[Ali]

Erm! yes actually. I noticed a difference in look, almost a greasy look. So i stripped it all off and started again.

I've got swissvax ONYX comin! excitment.

 

[Darren]

Does anyone know if using to many and different kinds of waxes on top of each other reduce the overall finish ?

Like dulling my paint work ?



The reason i ask is a local forum i go on i posted a few pics of my car with Collinites 476 on it then listed the other waxes i have applied in last 4-5 months and someone said this.

Heres what i posted regarding what i have applied to car in last 4-5 months.

Megiuars Quik Clay
2 coats of Ag Super Resin Polish
2 coats of Ag Extra Gloss Protection (24 hours apart)
2 coats of Poorboys Nattys Blue (Weeks apart)
P21's Carnauba wax about 5 times (Weeks apart)
Collinites 476s twice. (Weeks apart)

Heres the reply by a fellow forum member :S

"Sounds like heaps of protection but i bet with all that different LSPs on the car its prob muted any metal flake the car had!"

and i asked what he meant and here was reply

"Too much wax can(depending on the brands) can cause yellowing or fogging and will dull down any metallic finish underneath.
I would be concerned about mixing all the different LSP`s you have put on.
Do they react well together etc?
I am sure the Gurus from polished Bliss will clarify if i am right or wrong

I would find one LSP you like and stick with it or remove previous stuff and start with another one"

What you's guys think ?

Could he be right ?

i spot the new academy in pic 2. looks good pics mate, car looks nice.

 

[Brand86]

Erm! yes actually. I noticed a difference in look, almost a greasy look. So i stripped it all off and started again.

I've got swissvax ONYX comin! excitment.

Onyx is brilliant. I have an undercoat of 476s under mine and seems to be working very well together...just cleaned and QDd mine yesterday, after about a month of driving and being left in the rain, came up spotless again, and looks just lke it has been waxed - thats why I bought it really, as the 50/50 seemed to lose something in the looks after a clean or two. Now just going to alternate between Body Blitz sealant and Onyx layers over the winter, with more 476s on the wheels every other wash.

 

[Ali]

Erm! yes actually. I noticed a difference in look, almost a greasy look. So i stripped it all off and started again.

I've got swissvax ONYX comin! excitment.

Onyx is brilliant. I have an undercoat of 476s under mine and seems to be working very well together...just cleaned and QDd mine yesterday, after about a month of driving and being left in the rain, came up spotless again, and looks just lke it has been waxed - thats why I bought it really, as the 50/50 seemed to lose something in the looks after a clean or two. Now just going to alternate between Body Blitz sealant and Onyx layers over the winter, with more 476s on the wheels every other wash.

yep, lookin forward to usin it, although i think i'll keep it for myself. or charge more for it.

 

[Rich]

I have layered all sorts of waxes on paint over time. Muting of metallic flake can occur with one layer of wax depending on what wax that is. Some carnubas give a clear look, some give mute the flake as a side effect of the depth they give.

Most of the time you reach a point which the results diminish and you will not see any improvement in adding any more to the looks with additional layers. Some say 2-3 layers of wax tops. You may on a lighter car see a build up of the waxes yellowing the finish if you do succesfully manage to layer up some heavy carnuba's (something I am not convinced by as additional layers will disturb the previous). In reality you are proabably just wasting your time and product adding all the wax layers.

On the other In the past I have added a coat of wax to my car without anyside effects like the above.

In your routine the Collinite over the Nattys or P21s is a probably a waste of time as the poor durability of the Nattys/P21s will mean the Collinite will not bond aswell as it would over the EGP.

I would lay the EGP and Collinite base down and then use the P21s after wash for looks.

 

[D1CKY]

Ok cheers guys

 

[Rich]

Now is the time to redo the SRP and EGP if you are going to IMO.

I try and polish and seal once before winter and once before spring.

 

[D1CKY]

Now is the time to redo the SRP and EGP if you are going to IMO.

I try and polish and seal once before winter and once before spring.

Will do the next decent day we get with no rain or blazing sun

If i redo it, what will the SRP remove ?

Everything ?

I take it i'll have to wax again with P21's or Collinittes (a few times) after a few coats of EGP ?

Cheers Rich

 

[D1CKY]

I have layered all sorts of waxes on paint over time. Muting of metallic flake can occur with one layer of wax depending on what wax that is. Some carnubas give a clear look, some give mute the flake as a side effect of the depth they give.

Most of the time you reach a point which the results diminish and you will not see any improvement in adding any more to the looks with additional layers. Some say 2-3 layers of wax tops. You may on a lighter car see a build up of the waxes yellowing the finish if you do succesfully manage to layer up some heavy carnuba's (something I am not convinced by as additional layers will disturb the previous). In reality you are proabably just wasting your time and product adding all the wax layers.

On the other In the past I have added a coat of wax to my car without anyside effects like the above.

In your routine the Collinite over the Nattys or P21s is a probably a waste of time as the poor durability of the Nattys/P21s will mean the Collinite will not bond aswell as it would over the EGP.

I would lay the EGP and Collinite base down and then use the P21s after wash for looks.

Cheers, i'd say i've been lucky so far with my wax choices even though some don't bond as well than others

There doesn't seem to be much dulling/yellowing on my paint finish

But next time it'll be Egp then Collinittes then top ups in between with P21's.

That sounds a better to do it ?

 

[Rich]

SRP should clean it back to clean paint to allow the EGP to bond, couple of coats of EGP, couple of coats of the Collinitte and then add a layer of P21s whenever you get the chance would be my routine.

EGP and the Collinitte should give you guaranteed winter protection.

I have never seen the yellowing on my car either a though it is black, and my silver car never gets enough love to layer up waxes.

 

[D1CKY]

Onyx is brilliant. I have an undercoat of 476s under mine and seems to be working very well together...just cleaned and QDd mine yesterday, after about a month of driving and being left in the rain, came up spotless again, and looks just lke it has been waxed - thats why I bought it really, as the 50/50 seemed to lose something in the looks after a clean or two. Now just going to alternate between Body Blitz sealant and Onyx layers over the winter, with more 476s on the wheels every other wash.

yep, lookin forward to usin it, although i think i'll keep it for myself. or charge more for it.

Swisswax Onyx may be worth buying to add to my collection

Lol

How well does it bond to 476 though ?

 

[D1CKY]

Does anyone know if using to many and different kinds of waxes on top of each other reduce the overall finish ?

Like dulling my paint work ?



The reason i ask is a local forum i go on i posted a few pics of my car with Collinites 476 on it then listed the other waxes i have applied in last 4-5 months and someone said this.

Heres what i posted regarding what i have applied to car in last 4-5 months.

Megiuars Quik Clay
2 coats of Ag Super Resin Polish
2 coats of Ag Extra Gloss Protection (24 hours apart)
2 coats of Poorboys Nattys Blue (Weeks apart)
P21's Carnauba wax about 5 times (Weeks apart)
Collinites 476s twice. (Weeks apart)

Heres the reply by a fellow forum member :S

"Sounds like heaps of protection but i bet with all that different LSPs on the car its prob muted any metal flake the car had!"

and i asked what he meant and here was reply

"Too much wax can(depending on the brands) can cause yellowing or fogging and will dull down any metallic finish underneath.
I would be concerned about mixing all the different LSP`s you have put on.
Do they react well together etc?
I am sure the Gurus from polished Bliss will clarify if i am right or wrong

I would find one LSP you like and stick with it or remove previous stuff and start with another one"

What you's guys think ?

Could he be right ?

i spot the new academy in pic 2. looks good pics mate, car looks nice.

Cheers mate

Aye thats the Academy for sure mate.

You'll have to get pics up after you get the motor done with Jeffs

 

[D1CKY]

SRP should clean it back to clean paint to allow the EGP to bond, couple of coats of EGP, couple of coats of the Collinitte and then add a layer of P21s whenever you get the chance would be my routine.

EGP and the Collinitte should give you guaranteed winter protection.

I have never seen the yellowing on my car either a though it is black, and my silver car never gets enough love to layer up waxes.

Ok thats sounds like a plan.

Cheers again Rich

 

[Brand86]

yep, lookin forward to usin it, although i think i'll keep it for myself. or charge more for it.

Swisswax Onyx may be worth buying to add to my collection

Lol

How well does it bond to 476 though ?

Seems to work fine. One thing I have learnt that really makes a difference how well products work is the time left curing and in between layers. Not sure if you read when I did it all the layers I put on, but it was "several"... I left a day in between layers of sealants, and two days between waxes.

Comparing how my car looks nice to when I just had Collinites on last winter, it definitely has a better definition and gloss to the paint.

Plus, you can spread the Onyx SOOO thin it should last you ages and ages. Really great product.

 

[D1CKY]

Swisswax Onyx may be worth buying to add to my collection

Lol

How well does it bond to 476 though ?

Seems to work fine. One thing I have learnt that really makes a difference how well products work is the time left curing and in between layers. Not sure if you read when I did it all the layers I put on, but it was "several"... I left a day in between layers of sealants, and two days between waxes.

Comparing how my car looks nice to when I just had Collinites on last winter, it definitely has a better definition and gloss to the paint.

Plus, you can spread the Onyx SOOO thin it should last you ages and ages. Really great product.

Ok cheers mate