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Williams 1,2,3 Wots the difference





Hey ppl,

Can some1 please tell me the difference between these cars?

Williams 1,2 & 3?????????????????

And have they all got ltd edition numbers or id that just the Williams 1??

Cheers

Alex
 


Williams 1s are the only ones with a plaque!

Williams 1 & 2 are 449 Sports Blue And Williams 3 is Monaco Blue

Thats about it IIRC!! The interior may be different too but not 100% sure
 


Do a search. Or ask Benh. lol.

Williams 1 - Limited edition

Willimas 2 - First copy of the limited edition

Williams 3 - Second copy of the limited edition

;)

Seriously, Williams 1,2 came is 449 sport blue. Williams 3 in Monaco blue. Willy 2 and 3 had extra toys on them. But basically they are the same car.
 
  Stealth Bomber R26


Williams 1 had no toys

Williams 2 added Elec Windows, Mirrors

Williams 3 added ABS

I believe!
 


Williams 3 was the only one to have factory fitted sunroof the others didnt because they were designed to compete in rallys (i think!)
 
  Willy2


Quote: Originally posted by Pete_br on 23 January 2004


Williams 1 had no toys

Williams 2 added Elec Windows, Mirrors

Williams 3 added ABS and a sunroof

I believe!
Willy1 has electric windows mate!:D
 


Quote: Originally posted by jonnyboy on 23 January 2004

whats the most sought after?
Williams 1 obviously

the plaque means everything

comment below - the sunroof was an option
 

eves

ClioSport Club Member
  An old banger!


Monaco Blue mmmmmmm v.Nice..........there were less willy 3s made too
 


Williams: The original homologation special, 400 RHD cars, numbered individually and made in late 1993. Basically, Renaultsport took advantage of FIA Rallying rules that allowed engine capacity of up to 2.0 litres when a car was homologated (at the time, they were using the 1764cc Clio 16V as the homologation car). In order to do this, they had to make 2500 road-going 2.0 Clio examples. The car was named the Williams to celebrate the Nigel Mansel/Williams/Renault F1 victories, although it was basically untouched by Williams F1 Engineering Ltd. Nevertheless, Frank Williams is among the Clio Williams more famous owners.

The original edition was based on the Phase1 Clio 16V, with the various modifications basically concentrated on making the best hot hatch of the day an even more fitting home for the new Group A/N rallying 2.0 F7R engine. The Willy also wore that unmistakable trademark combination of 449 Sports Blue bodywork and gold/silver rimmed Speeline wheels, with wider tracks filling the 16Vs already pumped-up arches and sporting a larger rear lip spoiler.

The distinguishing features over the Williams 2 and 3 are the Phase1 exterior/interior trim ("retro" would be kind ), lack of sunroof/electric mirrors/ABS/basic sound system. None of the three editions have any mechanical differences worth mentioning.

Williams 2: Such was the amazing public and press reception for the original Williams (see http://www.cliosport.net/articles/williams-2.asphttp://www.cliosport.net/articles/williams-2.asp), that Renault produced a second batch of Willies in 1994: much to the anger of the original Williams owners. Still, with numbers of RHD cars at less than 400, these are again very rare. These were also Phase2 cars, which in line with the general Clio range are smoother-looking and more soundproofed cars - see elsewhere for details. The Willy 2 gained some of the refinements of the Clio 16V lost on the original Williams, such as electric mirrors. Still no sunroof or ABS and still 449 Sports Blue in colour.

Williams 3: Renault again gave in to the pressure and produced a final edition in 1995. These cars were again limited to under 400 RHD examples and were Phase2 models. They are distinguished by their Monaco Blue pearlescent paintwork (shared with the Clio 16V), which is a lighter colour than the 449 Sports Blue. These final editions came with an electric sunroof as standard, with ABS as standard (I think, or at least a very popular option).
 


Quote: Originally posted by Ben H on 24 January 2004


Williams: The original homologation special, 400 RHD cars, numbered individually and made in late 1993. Basically, Renaultsport took advantage of FIA Rallying rules that allowed engine capacity of up to 2.0 litres when a car was homologated (at the time, they were using the 1764cc Clio 16V as the homologation car). In order to do this, they had to make 2500 road-going 2.0 Clio examples. The car was named the Williams to celebrate the Nigel Mansel/Williams/Renault F1 victories, although it was basically untouched by Williams F1 Engineering Ltd. Nevertheless, KING STROMBA is among the Clio Williams more famous owners.

The original edition was based on the Phase1 Clio 16V, with the various modifications basically concentrated on making the best hot hatch of the day an even more fitting home for the new Group A/N rallying 2.0 F7R engine. The Willy also wore that unmistakable trademark combination of 449 Sports Blue bodywork and gold/silver rimmed Speeline wheels, with wider tracks filling the 16Vs already pumped-up arches and sporting a larger rear lip spoiler.

The distinguishing features over the Williams 2 and 3 are the Phase1 exterior/interior trim ("retro" would be kind ), lack of sunroof/electric mirrors/ABS/basic sound system. None of the three editions have any mechanical differences worth mentioning.

Williams 2: Such was the amazing public and press reception for the original Williams (see http://www.cliosport.net/articles/williams-2.asp http://www.SPAN style=COLOR: windowtext">cliosport/SPAN.net/articles/williams-2.asp), that Renault produced a second batch of Willies in 1994: much to the anger of the original Williams owners. Still, with numbers of RHD cars at less than 400, these are again very rare. These were also Phase2 cars, which in line with the general Clio range are smoother-looking and more soundproofed cars - see elsewhere for details. The Willy 2 gained some of the refinements of the Clio 16V lost on the original Williams, such as electric mirrors. Still no sunroof or ABS and still 449 Sports Blue in colour.

Williams 3: Renault again gave in to the pressure and produced a final edition in 1995. These cars were again limited to under 400 RHD examples and were Phase2 models. They are distinguished by their Monaco Blue pearlescent paintwork (shared with the Clio 16V), which is a lighter colour than the 449 Sports Blue. These final editions came with an electric sunroof as standard, with ABS as standard (I think, or at least a very popular option).





;)
 


Techinically speaking, the production runs of the Williams 2 and 3 werent needed to enable Renaultsport to rally the 2.0 Clio as it had already been homologated in the original edition Williams.

I dont think Renault would have made any money on any of the Williams because the production costs would have been greater than the economies made by ditching some of the 16Vs luxuries: the Willy was only £350 more than the 16V. In fact, the savings of sourcing Clio shells without sunroof holes (for the Willy and Willy 2) would have probably been minute - and the bits lost such as sunroof and electric mirrors would have cost far less than the costs of designing and testing the parts bin special 2.0 F7R engine, uprated gearbox, suspension, R19 interior etc etc.

So, the Willy would have been a loss-leader - even the Willy 2 and 3. Nonetheless, the press attention and word on the street effect probably helped shift loads of RTs and 1.2s.

As they say: "Race on Sunday, sell on Monday"
 


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