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Williams handling improvements



C

chip16v



why would you want to improve the handling on one of the best handling hatchs of all time?
 
C

chip16v



fine by me mate just currioius why you would want to improve the handling
 


The DeCarbon shocks and stiffer springs are unique to the Willy and are highly regarded as standard.

If you just want to tighten things up a bit then you could replace the track rod ends, bushes and anti-roll bar mounts with either new ones or uprated ones (the rubbers will have deteriorated even with your mere 20k on the clock).

This is the route to take if you just want the standard factory feel. Fresh tyres make a big difference too, although BenR tells me that some of the more aggressive modern tyre designs arent best suited to the Willy. You might also want to keep your Willy standard-looking as its No.0002!

But if you want to lower it then the front will require a minimum of lowering springs (Id recommned new strut top mounts too). Im sure you know that youll need to have the torsion beam adjusted at the rear - and the brake bias valve tweaked, or youre back brakes will lock up all the time. The next step would be some quality coilovers (Avo etc). It would also be possible to fit some coilovers and not lower the car, although there might not be much point.
 

STICKER TWONK

ClioSport Club Member
  Golf GTi DSG


Do what Ben H said in all but the last paragraph. You cant lower a Williams or do anything to a Willy at all, esp no 2, its just criminal IMO. A Willy looks best as standard, the day it left the factory.
 


This may sound odd, but when it comes to lowering on clio 16vs/willys its best to lower the front and just leave ride height std at the back. This is how Nick Hill has his, and im hoping for a demo this saturday! :D

My clio is lower at the front then it is at the back and it croners lovely!! thats with std suspension! wunna get mine uprated after christmas and replace all my antiroll bushes ect like Ben advised.
 


stick on a new set of suspension bushes; wishbone and anti-roll bar. ball joints and track rods ends die over time and abuse. get these replaced, theyr cheap enuff. also get the tracking checked.

jimbo
 
  williams and trophy


must admit the AVOs on mine are spot on.............more or less standard ride height but just a little firmer thru the corners
 


Quote: Originally posted by Ben H on 29 October 2003


If you just want to tighten things up a bit then you could replace the track rod ends, bushes and anti-roll bar mounts with either new ones or uprated ones (the rubbers will have deteriorated even with your mere 20k on the clock).
Any idea how much this sort of work will cost, mine feels sloppy after all the miles and defo needs them doing.
 


If you lower the back and lose the front end down stance, it will start to understeer!

Ive put the back of mine back to standard, and the front is about 15mm lower than standard

This with new shocks, bushes all round etc etc has made it feel exactley how i want it!

oversteers like a b**ch! but is very controllable and feels just right!
 


I guess it also depends on the road surface condition you will be driving on.

eg: my old 185/55 tyres carried far more speed over bumpy backroads than my 195/50 ones BUT the 195/50s give me more grip on flatter smoother roads. I lost 20mph on a bumpy straight i drive on when i changed to the 195s as the car was just too unsettled.
 
  williams and trophy


lol was the change of surface from tarmac to concrete mate..........well thats wot caught me out lol;)
 


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