Wiring diagram for connectors into speedo

[hammytrumpet]

Hi all,

Does anyone have a wiring diagram with colours of wires into the speedo/dash, specifically the abs and gearbox change light??

Thanks

 

[hammytrumpet]

BTW, It's a 52 plate renault clio 172 cup.

 

[McGherkin]

 

[hammytrumpet]

So which one of those above is the gear change light mcgherkin? ? Thanks for this fella

 

[hammytrumpet]

The one down on the right bottom of the dash?

 

[McGherkin]

I'm not sure offhand, it's probably one of the ones that's listed as 'Not Used'.

 

[smac4494]

I'm pretty sure it's part of the top left connection. But if you're having trouble with the speedo display then it's more likely the gearbox speedo sensor and/or associated connection. (This is assuming you have a jc5089 or equivalent gearbox)

 

[DannyR]

I'll have a look tomorrow on the proper wiring if you want, just leave this here to remind. me

 

[hammytrumpet]

Thanks again for the help. I am just about to remove the dash!

 

[hammytrumpet]

If you could give me more detail than above it would save faffing about time.

 

[DannyR]

Ill be home shortly

 

[hammytrumpet]

Hey Danny maybe it's as well but struggled to get dash out. Any joy. Had the Sunday roast yet?

 

[DannyR]

These are for a Ph1 so cannnot cross reference for Ph2.

Looking at the Ph2 wiring diagram it somehow picks off data from somewhere within the instrument panel.

 

[McGherkin]

These are for a Ph1 so cannnot cross reference for Ph2.

IIRC the over-rev light RPM can be changed when mapping the car?

 

[hammytrumpet]

Hi Danny
I need to know which wire is the airbag?one, no. 6,? and which one is the gear one.
i don't understand the diagram sorry.

 

[DannyR]

The gear one doesn't have a number, it connects in somehow with the SERV light. So there isn't a set light for that, my guess is it works off of the RPM internally.

 

[hammytrumpet]

It shows tensioner gear and airbag lights but i can't work out which one they relate to.
there's a pint owing for this one!!

 

[hammytrumpet]

Ok Danny heres what I'm at. The airbag light is constantly on. I want to use the car as a track car but need it roadworthy to get it up to the track but can't get the car through mot without getting the airbag light to switch on and off. Now instead of me spending hundreds on a car that is simply going to do a small mileage, i.e. on a track, I am trying to get the airbag light wire joined onto another wire, i.e. the gear one which goes on and off when car is started on the dash.

 

[hammytrumpet]

 

[McGherkin]

Ok Danny heres what I'm at. The airbag light is constantly on. I want to use the car as a track car but need it roadworthy to get it up to the track but can't get the car through mot without getting the airbag light to switch on and off. Now instead of me spending hundreds on a car that is simply going to do a small mileage, i.e. on a track, I am trying to get the airbag light wire joined onto another wire, i.e. the gear one which goes on and off when car is started on the dash.

Why don't you just get it plugged into Clip and have the airbags disabled?

 

[hammytrumpet]

Good point Mcgherkin, but just trying to save a few pounds to be honest, renault is £85 per hour….. There is no reason for me to put the car right when it's going to be tracked. Rather spend money on aftermarket stuff that makes it go quicker. It's a 13 year old car now and I have another car anyway, the good old vauxhall vectra as a daily worker.

 

[McGherkin]

Sod paying 80 odd quid. Find a local trader with it and they'll probably do it for the cost of a pint or two. It's a 5 minute job to check to see what's causing the light and disable it.

 

[DannyR]

You won't get the air bag light off by cutting a wire. You'll need to open up the case and get the LED off the board.

Only way is Clip, or resistor but if it's on now I believe it's too late.

 

[McGherkin]

if it's on now I believe it's too late.

Only if it's been crashed.

Most other situations, Clip will do the job fine.

 

[hammytrumpet]

Ok, so then it looks like I'm burdened with a car that needs to go to renault or a very good auto electrician. The story is, the previous owner had a shunt but didn't knock out airbags, but airbag light and serv light on and seat belt pre-tenseniors all open circuits and also rear seat belts as well. I have never been stung before but looks like the previous owner had not been completely straight and this fault is bigger than connectors under the seat. The thing was, and still is, that the car drives 110%!!!!
Then I tried to unlock the airbag ecu by sending it to an ebay dude and he said it was unlocked after impact data was erased. Got it back and straightaway airbag light back on. Got a friend of a friend who owns a garage to stick it on a snap on diagnostic and every time he tries to clear the codes the light comes straight back up again, with all codes still present. He thought maybe this was a major wire fault which was maybe due to stretched wires somewhere before the airbag ECU and the engine main ECU causing a short out as it was unlikely all pretensioners had gone and they don't look to be stretched anyway.
So, I think I'm gonna have to take a big hit on this one to sort as it is way beyond my capabilities, and I was just looking a quick fix to just get me through the test as discussed previously. I may have to stop drinking to pay for this…….feckety feck. Anyone know the best rate for a loan or do renault let you pay by instalments!!

 

[McGherkin]

Pretensioners don't stretch, they get shorter. If they look like they've pulled in, then they've fired and will turn your airbag light on again.

 

[hammytrumpet]

Have you ever lost the will to live McGherkin, If you have you'll understand!! Forgive me in my haste of writing, what I meant was seat belts are both the same height so I presume they have not fired?? Going to go to an auto spark tomorrow. For some reason I trust him more than leaving it to renault. They know how to charge all right!

 

[GrahamS]

where are you? I can turn off airbag lights

 

[hammytrumpet]

Isle of Man graham. I need the light to go on then off as per standard set up. There's always a boat if you're that keen!! He he he....

 

[DannyR]

Only if it's been crashed.

Most other situations, Clip will do the job fine.

I meant with the resistor trick. You need to fit resistor with battery off whilst removing battery.

 

[James]

IIRC the over-rev light RPM can be changed when mapping the car?

Callum, which pins do I need to apply 12v across in order to illuminate the dials?

I want to test the one I'm swapping LEDs on before I strip out my current one.

 

[McGherkin]

Earth 24, 12v on 27 for the backlighting and 16 to power up the trip computer, IIRC.

 

[James]

Earth 24, 12v on 27 for the backlighting and 16 to power up the trip computer, IIRC.

Cheers mate!

 

[Tadj]

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These are for a Ph1 so cannnot cross reference for Ph2.

Looking at the Ph2 wiring diagram it somehow picks off data from somewhere within the instrument panel.

Hey, can you please send me the full pdf file?