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Astra VXR 17/05/07
I think its wringing the neck out of the range doing that.
The 182 is an improvement over the allready good 172 but not a drastic improvement.
To bring out another before the new range would be pointless and tacky IMO.
How would it improve over the 182 ?
More power,a few cosmetics...Nah,no point !
If they did that id be wary buying a new model Renaultsport for fear of buying it only to see it updated.
Volvo S60 T5
I hear rumours that a clio turbo will be released
Yup. http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=103Here. First half of 2006. Change of plans??
No turbo for me. A 2.0 putting out 200+hp in a lightened S1600 bodyshell and Id be happy. Wouldnt mind a sequential box in it either. This one would do though!http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1063316945__100-0035_IMG_2.jpg
I fancy them sticking the new magane engine in the "special" clio so it would be a Clio Renault Sport 225 or they cud take 2hp of and say its a 222. Or if they want to be kind liberate 7bhp more and call it 232.
They would have to keep with the cars excellent handling tradition. And for people to want it it would have to look a lot more agressive than the new cudly shape does.
I hate the new shape its like a megane not wuite as peculiar looking but im not a fan. I think the meganes new shape is a love or hate thing. I would also like a ltd edition light weight version of the new clio but theyd have to come up with something other than cup. If they dont make a 225 and they dont make a lightweight version of the renault sport model im afraid the Cup with be the only clio i own and i will convert to other things.
Ziel Nurburgring
There cant be much left in the 2L n/a engine bhp wise, it would have to be a special/exclusive effort. Stripped out 182, megane engined, megane engined stripped out, or just a nice new ltd paint job, interior and alloys.
To be honest, a 2**bhp clio is getting a bit much in a fwd supermini. It would be fun, but you would trash tyres in months with all the wheel spinning and the understeer would be enormous.
[Edited by blink172 on 10 July 2004 at 11:32am]
Iain C
ClioSport Club Member
wouldnt a 220 turbo clio be a waste of time ? It strugles to put down 182 bhp without electronics to keep it in check.
With 220 bhp your are close to fwd power limit.
I dont think reno need another clio....unless it was a lightened 182 without toys...now theres an idea
No need for a turbo.
Honda manages to get a good bit more out of 2l in the S2000. How does 240hp sound? If I want a 2 litre turbo Ill go up a class to the Scooby or Evo.
Naturally aspirated engines are more responsive and as long as the car is light, you dont need gobs of horsepower.
Ed
No no what they want to do is forget about more power - traction is the problem, so the gap between 182 and V6 should be filled by a 4WD Clio running say 250bhp. Then to avoid outdoing the V6, the V6 should be supercharged to around 350bhp.
Look at the new Focus on the front of Autocar this week. After the Focus RS was kind of slated because it was too much power through FWD, they are planning on a 300bhp 4wd version. And why not!
You want to call and tell the dudes at Autodelta that, when they squezze 327 or something out of the Alfa.Quote: Originally posted by Iain C on 10 July 2004
wouldnt a 220 turbo clio be a waste of time ? It strugles to put down 182 bhp without electronics to keep it in check.
With 220 bhp your are close to fwd power limit.
I dont think reno need another clio....unless it was a lightened 182 without toys...now theres an idea
