Help ASAP - Running problem

[philthy]

did work well when I changed the plugs too, for about 15 miles... hmmm

will see the outcome of the omex though

 

[Ali]

still shagged?

 

[philthy]

Ive not even cranked it in almost 2 weeks,partly cause the ecu is still at omex

 

[gtruk]

thought they were phoning you this morning, i just read 11 pages and there was no ending! how gutting :|

 

[philthy]

lol sorry, hopefully it will all be over soon

no phone call, phoned them twice and the returns guy is away out...

waiting half an hour and phoning back, im not gong to stop hassling til I get it back

 

[philthy]

Okay, its getting the bad repair repaired by the good repairer martin.

Im not convinced this will solve it but its worth it for peace of mind.

 

[MarkM]

Okay, its getting the bad repair repaired by the good repairer martin.

Im not convinced this will solve it but its worth it for peace of mind.

Can they do you an exchange price on a new one?

 

[philthy]

no, he said its 545 for a new board. Which is basically a new ecu!

 

[MarkM]

no, he said its 545 for a new board. Which is basically a new ecu!

Have you stressed to them that

the ECU was supplied and fitted, as new, by an approved dealer

the previous owner has had no work done by anyone else and does not have the technical know how to delve into an ECU and start 'repairing' it

If it was me I would be very pissed off indeed. It would be a good will gesture on there part to sort you out with a new ECU at reduced cost. Poor customer service IMO.

 

[philthy]

they are doing it at cost to them, so Il just pay labour and the pennies for the parts, he reckons no more than 100 notes.

 

[MarkM]

they are doing it at cost to them, so Il just pay labour and the pennies for the parts, he reckons no more than 100 notes.

Fair enough.

Badly corroded and a bad board repair with a second repair on it wouldnt fill me with a great deal of confidence.

 

[TheJesus]

no, he said its 545 for a new board. Which is basically a new ecu!

Have you stressed to them that

the ECU was supplied and fitted, as new, by an approved dealer

the previous owner has had no work done by anyone else and does not have the technical know how to delve into an ECU and start 'repairing' it

If it was me I would be very pissed off indeed. It would be a good will gesture on there part to sort you out with a new ECU at reduced cost. Poor customer service IMO.

I have a question Mark. do you have an Omex in yours?

Has it corroded from water damage?

How many miles have you done since fitting?

Where is it located?

Has it been moved? (if so how long ago, time and mileage please)

Do you clean the engine bay "regularly" to the point it needs components to be covered?

If you guys are looking to blame someone it might be worth looking at all the facts and applying some form of common sense. There's no guarantee that the components were covered properly when cleaned "regularly".

I'd like to know what Omex make of all of this really...

 

[ForceIndia]

Have you stressed to them that

the ECU was supplied and fitted, as new, by an approved dealer

the previous owner has had no work done by anyone else and does not have the technical know how to delve into an ECU and start 'repairing' it

If it was me I would be very pissed off indeed. It would be a good will gesture on there part to sort you out with a new ECU at reduced cost. Poor customer service IMO.

I have a question Mark. do you have an Omex in yours?

Has it corroded from water damage?

How many miles have you done since fitting?

Where is it located?

Has it been moved? (if so how long ago, time and mileage please)

Do you clean the engine bay "regularly" to the point it needs components to be covered?

If you guys are looking to blame someone it might be worth looking at all the facts and applying some form of common sense. There's no guarantee that the components were covered properly when cleaned "regularly".

I'd like to know what Omex make of all of this really...

Why's this dude always angry??

 

[philthy]

to jesus> im not looking to blame anyone, stop seeing this as having a dig at suppliers. All Im doing is looking to have my car to running 100% again.

Start your own thread if you want to go on about cleaning engine bays and warranties etc etc

 

[ForceIndia]

Think he's gone. Probably sat in a pair of y-fronts head butting the monitor.

 

[TheJesus]

Think he's gone. Probably sat in a pair of y-fronts head butting the monitor.

yup, in your dad's Y-fronts to be precise, as that's all your mum had lying around

 

[ForceIndia]

That's an acheivment, she's been dead for over a decade, pass on my regards.

 

[TheJesus]

sincerest apologies

 

[gtruk]

LOL you guys crack me up.

 

[foxon]

I asked Andy about this earlier and he said he'd never open up and try and repair an Omex as he doesn't know the first thing about PCB's and as Bex says, it would void the warrenty... so be careful what you insinuate

If it's corroded then this will obviously have happen over a period of time, so the time it goes from working okay to causing problems and failing could be anything, otherwise it would die at the first sign of water. I've never washed my engine bay or steam cleaned it with the ECU in, due to the fact it can f**k them up, especially as they are non sealed units...

yes the engine bay was washed regularly however the electronics were always covered with cling film and the engine was thoroughly dried and dressed before i removed it.

Not being funny, but there's your problem, regularly cleaned engine bay using water could have easily been avoided by removing the ECU, which takes all of 5 seconds
The fact the ECU has water damage spells it out in a pretty obvious manner to me, how many other people have had corrosion from water problems?

Still, nice to see the usual suspects instantly point the finger and lack the basic common sense to add 2 and 2... water + engine bay = f**ked ECU. Basic stuff kids.
If I were Andy I'd tell you to f**k off to be honest and not even bother helping you after some of your insinuating comments.

completely agree, i may be a electrician but it don`t take a rocket scientist to realise water n electricity don`t mix :S

 

[mini-valver]

How do you explain showers then?

 

[foxon]

sealed unit lol

 

[mini-valver]

Well, it certainly begs the question

 

[ja.jack]

The real question is when will your wonderful conversion be on the road.

 

[foxon]

what question?? how does excessive water get in the engine bay to the omex?? i`ve ad my car nearly 18months, clean it every weekend n NEVER noticed any water or water marks in the engine bay!! its not like the wheel archs r open!?

 

[foxon]

who me?? 2moz:clap:, rang andy 2day he was just putting it on a trailer to go to omex to finish the mappin n rolling road it. pick it up about 4ish, can`t wait!!

 

[ja.jack]

No, mini-valver.

 

[philthy]

foxon-
Still doesnt explain the repair.

Go and read ead other posts before jumping on jesus' bandwagon

yeehaa

 

[mini-valver]

It does'nt have to physically get wet though. It's a non-sealed unit so with the wether being as foggy as it is in the mornings it can easily get damp which I'm sure you'll agree, is just as bad.

 

[philthy]

It does'nt have to physically get wet though. It's a non-sealed unit so with the wether being as foggy as it is in the mornings it can easily get damp which I'm sure you'll agree, is just as bad.

agreed, even worse is if the car is sitting outside for 3 months without being used.

 

[mini-valver]

No, mini-valver.

Soon hopefully. Waiting on other people to produce now so Ben can crack on. Couple of issues with the weight of the thottle body but nothing abit of bracketry wont sort.
You're nearly as anxious as me, lol.

 

[foxon]

foxon-
Still doesnt explain the repair.

Go and read ead other posts before jumping on jesus' bandwagon

yeehaa

don`t need to jump on any bandwagon thanx!! was only saying MATE don`t need to jump down me throat :S plus i`ve red all the previous posts, been keeping me eye on this thead cause i`m havin omex fitted. so many gdi haters on this forum its untrue

 

[mini-valver]

It does'nt have to physically get wet though. It's a non-sealed unit so with the wether being as foggy as it is in the mornings it can easily get damp which I'm sure you'll agree, is just as bad.

agreed, even worse is if the car is sitting outside for 3 months without being used.

Was it through summer or winter? If it was through winter, damp will freeze and thaw out in the unit which will REALLY f**k it!

 

[TheJesus]

It does'nt have to physically get wet though. It's a non-sealed unit so with the wether being as foggy as it is in the mornings it can easily get damp which I'm sure you'll agree, is just as bad.

agreed, even worse is if the car is sitting outside for 3 months without being used.

clutching at straws here imo. 40k the Omex on my car has done and in rainy Manchester and it's in the same mounting position. In fact f**k it, I'm going to phone Omex tomorrow and find out what's caused this out of concern it could happen to mine... obviously I know it wont happen to mine, but I'd like to know how this has happened, as personally, I think Stoddie's cleaning habbits have knackered it.

 

[philthy]

It was summer, tbh I dont think its the corrosion thats knackered it, i think its the dodgy repair. The corrosion wont be helping much though

Ive had new iginition drivers fitted and it will be bak in my hands tomo.

Jesus, go and open your up and take a picture if you could, would be interested to see if there is any corrosion at all if its been driven in the wet.

Il post a pic of mine as soon as I get it back

 

[John185k]

glad you can see the light mate - i know the frustration you must be going through...

 

[foxon]

philthy its done 40,000, fink it wud be fuked by now if it was anything to do wiv the weather imo, plus the jesus can`t open it cause it wud void the warrenty

 

[foxon]

out of interest, r the renault standard ecu`s water tight?? cause there also mount in the engine bay!!

 

[mini-valver]

I'm just pointing out why it would be corroded, Scotland being the sunny side of the UK and all
The repair would be my biggest concern as Phil has said.

What have OMEX actually said then?

 

[TheJesus]

It was summer, tbh I dont think its the corrosion thats knackered it, i think its the dodgy repair. The corrosion wont be helping much though

Ive had new iginition drivers fitted and it will be bak in my hands tomo.

Jesus, go and open your up and take a picture if you could, would be interested to see if there is any corrosion at all if its been driven in the wet.

Il post a pic of mine as soon as I get it back

not a problem mate, just been looking for my allen (sp?) keys to open the fecker actually! lol

seriously, it gets driven everywhere as I'm a lazy fucker. I've done 15k this year, drive down the M60 ring road 2-3 times a week to see mates in Oldham and Leeds way and the standing water on that road is incredible, but so far no problems.
I'm going to email Omex tomorrow as a concerned customer as well and see what they think of how it's been installed and the location of the ECU, and if they see this as a problem. I'll also say that someone on a forum I use has had theirs corrode and that obviously I dont want the same to happen to mine and see what they come back with.

Stu, I'm not worried about the warrenty, if I ever had a problem Andy would sort that side of things out for me, so I'll go out after my T and get some pics... might be a bit dark, in which case I'll get some more tomorrow as well.
Not sure on the stock ECU tbh, the Williams one isn't, wouldn't imagine the newer ones are either really, as when Wayne worked at Renault they said never to put steam cleaners or water near the engine, damp cloth only for cleaning as the ECU's have a habbit of failing afterwards