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The Power PC Thread [f*ck off consoles]
- Thread starter Munson
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How much is it?
N0ddie
ClioSport Club Member
Tesla Model 3
£1699
N0ddie
ClioSport Club Member
Tesla Model 3
If you really want it I’ll send you the link. Apparently you have to use my email address though but everything else would be your details.Yes please
Would be very grateful like.
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
This probably doesn't qualify for this thread as it's only a laptop but CBA making a bespoke one, so...
Video editing and web browsing. That's all I do.
Will an i9 be that much more noticeably faster/smoother than a latest gen i7? For video editing/writing only, will a NVIDEA GTX3070 be quicker than a 3060 vs a 3050. Enough for me to notice?
My current i7 from 2016, an HP Envy, is really starting to struggle, but I like the aluminium body and solid build quality.
I'm thinking possibly a gaming laptop but worry about flimsy build and noisy fans...so I'm also looking non-gaming but strongly specced models.
Budget is up to £1300, I'm waiting for cyber black friday monday deals, these are what I have my eye on.
Would I regret maxing processor/graphics over build quality? Or would it make up for the difference with lightening quick edit suite work and video rendering?
Video editing and web browsing. That's all I do.
Will an i9 be that much more noticeably faster/smoother than a latest gen i7? For video editing/writing only, will a NVIDEA GTX3070 be quicker than a 3060 vs a 3050. Enough for me to notice?
My current i7 from 2016, an HP Envy, is really starting to struggle, but I like the aluminium body and solid build quality.
I'm thinking possibly a gaming laptop but worry about flimsy build and noisy fans...so I'm also looking non-gaming but strongly specced models.
Budget is up to £1300, I'm waiting for cyber black friday monday deals, these are what I have my eye on.
Would I regret maxing processor/graphics over build quality? Or would it make up for the difference with lightening quick edit suite work and video rendering?
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
My MSI laptop is a fairly cheap chassis with decent CPU/GPU in it and I don't really have any issues. It just feels a bit less premium.
For video editing, using modern software, graphics horsepower is where it's at.
For video editing, using modern software, graphics horsepower is where it's at.
Clio 182
Not unless you do all your editing in Costa and want people to be impressed with your milled aluminium chassis.
I would suggest a laptop with a good quality screen that displays accurate colours would also be important for video editing, no point buying a powerful laptop and finding it has a 360Hz 1080p TN panel that's only useful for sweaty gamers.
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Much as I'd love to, a desktop is not an option...I don't have a permanent base of operations at home so setup wherever I have to for an editing session.
You're the first to mention ti cards...I've seen some with these...what's the deal with them?
A 3050 ti is a better thing than a non-ti 3060?
I've concluded that the screen and internals is the important bit...I can't tell you the last time my current laptop left home, so build quality matter so little really.
charltjr
ClioSport Club Member
Yeah, Seasonic have put out some info on what they think the root cause likely is.
Looks like the connector just isn't up to the job.
Jay put out a video last night trying to get one to fail and couldn't manage it
No doubt there's a problem, but how much of the problem is down to idiots bending stuff way more than they should be?
N0ddie
ClioSport Club Member
Tesla Model 3
Tbf, you can usually get away with being a total ba$tard to the internal cabling of a PC. These adapters are apprently of guff quality and Nvidia should be held accountable for not guaranteeing their integrity. See here:
The horror has a face - NVIDIA’s hot 12VHPWR adapter for the GeForce RTX 4090 with a built-in breaking point | igor´sLAB
Those who are now beating up on the new 12VHPWR (although I don’t really like the part either) may generate nice traffic with it, but they simply haven’t recognized the actual problem with the…
www.igorslab.de
The gist of it is; end users should not have to go "aftermarket (Cablemod adapters)" in order to guarantee their £1700 purchase doesn't meltdown.
Indeed! Presumably these new ATX 3.0 PSUs don't need this adapter?Tbf, you can usually get away with being a total ba$tard to the internal cabling of a PC. These adapters are apprently of guff quality and Nvidia should be held accountable for not guaranteeing their integrity. See here:
The horror has a face - NVIDIA’s hot 12VHPWR adapter for the GeForce RTX 4090 with a built-in breaking point | igor´sLAB
Those who are now beating up on the new 12VHPWR (although I don’t really like the part either) may generate nice traffic with it, but they simply haven’t recognized the actual problem with the…
The gist of it is; end users should not have to go "aftermarket (Cablemod adapters)" in order to guarantee their £1700 purchase doesn't meltdown.
ChrisR
ClioSport Club Member
Would an external GPU be a viable option?
Using an external enclosure could give you best of both worlds, whilst it's not something you chuck in a bag with the laptop it'd still be portable in some way...
N0ddie
ClioSport Club Member
Tesla Model 3
Correct. Those PSUs have the fancy connection out and supplied with the correct cable.
The issue is; these new PSUs haven't been released yet (En masse) so people are having to resort to these adapters. Corsair are coming out with a nicely designed cable, as are Cablemod, that will adapt better/nicer the current 8-pin plugs to the new connector.
The issue is that Nvidia shouldn't be supplying substandard adapters with their cards. Clearly they've not followed up on the QC of their 3rd party contractors.
The Ti card bridges the gap between two adjacent cards, but it's a touch short of being the middle ground.
So in terms of performance:
3060
3060Ti
3070
3070TI
3080
etc etc
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Well f**k, I was able to try out my research project/software at a local CGI/VFX place last Friday as I wanted to get some metrics on the CUDA performance of the 4090. They agreed to provide me a loaner for a few weeks, which arrived earlier this afternoon. I've just spent ages dismantling and cleaning my PC only to find that the 4090 is completely dead. FFS. Put the 3090 back in and it's all good again. Much excited is now much deflated. At least it's not costing me anything. I also missed out on my two preorders due to my dad's ill health and passing so think I'm going to just wait for good availability of the Ti model now. A shame as I missed out on my 3090 pre-orders too and ended up paying near on 3k for the card.
There's been a few appearing on OCUK at the price people paid, dunno if that's worth a lookWell f**k, I was able to try out my research project/software at a local CGI/VFX place last Friday as I wanted to get some metrics on the CUDA performance of the 4090. They agreed to provide me a loaner for a few weeks, which arrived earlier this afternoon. I've just spent ages dismantling and cleaning my PC only to find that the 4090 is completely dead. FFS. Put the 3090 back in and it's all good again. Much excited is now much deflated. At least it's not costing me anything. I also missed out on my two preorders due to my dad's ill health and passing so think I'm going to just wait for good availability of the Ti model now. A shame as I missed out on my 3090 pre-orders too and ended up paying near on 3k for the card.
Maccy
ClioSport Club Member
Straight 6
If you're desperate I can source you one mateWell f**k, I was able to try out my research project/software at a local CGI/VFX place last Friday as I wanted to get some metrics on the CUDA performance of the 4090. They agreed to provide me a loaner for a few weeks, which arrived earlier this afternoon. I've just spent ages dismantling and cleaning my PC only to find that the 4090 is completely dead. FFS. Put the 3090 back in and it's all good again. Much excited is now much deflated. At least it's not costing me anything. I also missed out on my two preorders due to my dad's ill health and passing so think I'm going to just wait for good availability of the Ti model now. A shame as I missed out on my 3090 pre-orders too and ended up paying near on 3k for the card.
I've still got my 6900xt at the moment so I'm happy to put that back in and you can loan my 4090 if you're stuck.Well f**k, I was able to try out my research project/software at a local CGI/VFX place last Friday as I wanted to get some metrics on the CUDA performance of the 4090. They agreed to provide me a loaner for a few weeks, which arrived earlier this afternoon. I've just spent ages dismantling and cleaning my PC only to find that the 4090 is completely dead. FFS. Put the 3090 back in and it's all good again. Much excited is now much deflated. At least it's not costing me anything. I also missed out on my two preorders due to my dad's ill health and passing so think I'm going to just wait for good availability of the Ti model now. A shame as I missed out on my 3090 pre-orders too and ended up paying near on 3k for the card.
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Thank you gents - let me get back to you shortly... I might be able to get my hands on another later today! Thanks!
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Thankfully the 3090 is working just fine so I can carry on working!
My need for the 4090 is just to ensure that the software I'm working on works well on the new hardware and doesn't crash (and for gaming baller status of course!)
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Thanks all for the responses and advice on a video editing laptop.
Trigger just pressed on a 17 inch MSI Pulse with an i9-12900H and RTX 3060 8GB. Looks like I should be able to give it a full 8TB of capacity too. Perfect.
Trigger just pressed on a 17 inch MSI Pulse with an i9-12900H and RTX 3060 8GB. Looks like I should be able to give it a full 8TB of capacity too. Perfect.
N0ddie
ClioSport Club Member
Tesla Model 3
Look like similar to Ampere in terms of ray tracing performance but a good chunk less than the 4090. Tbh, I turn ray tracing off so RT numbers don't bother me in the slightest. However, if they can get close (90%) of the 4090 raster performance for 60% of the price? Bargain @ £999 for the XTX.
Touring_Rob
ClioSport Club Member
Will be interesting to see the difference between the 3090 and 4090 performance wise.Thankfully the 3090 is working just fine so I can carry on working!
My need for the 4090 is just to ensure that the software I'm working on works well on the new hardware and doesn't crash (and for gaming baller status of course!)
We have a machine at work running 16 x Tesla cards, the it nerd was considering swapping out to 4090's when availability is better.
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
I've not got any comparison/metrics with Tesla arrays sadly, but the uplift in performance [of the 4090 over the 3090] is quite significant. CUDA (and GPU compute) I was seeing a good 65-85% improvement over the 3090. It did vary depending on what we were doing with the card but it was primarily visualisation/rendering related and certainly bodes well.
I can't say how well the 4090s would compare against a Tesla cluster but the 4090 is certainly a worthy consideration as a dedicated workstation card (if you don't need the additional extras that the more expensive Quadro cards, and you don't mind a bit of noise).
Touring_Rob
ClioSport Club Member
I currently run a 3090 in a workstation and haven't seen any negatives over the recommended Quadro (for the software I use) . I really wasn't expecting such a reported increase performance wise from the 4090!
N0ddie
ClioSport Club Member
Tesla Model 3
At 4k apparently 150.
Ray Gin
ClioSport Club Member
Cupra Leon & Impreza
Oh. I’ll wait for the 5090 😐😂
I'll tell you properly later. I don't run DLSS, native 4k with everything on other than ray tracing I think and I see between 150-190 most of the time.
I’ll let you know when I slot mine in 😂
I see a solid 120-140fps currently with everything on max using the 3090ti so I would expect 170-200.
Crayola
ClioSport Club Member
