clio sport 172 cup track action

[dave b]

blimey who is this going like stink?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk7nzoc7sGU&feature=related

 

[FlameR]

mark cups. He's completely stripped it

 

[Jay Payne]

Trust me the guy can drive.......

 

[dave b]

thats a 1.30 lap!!

 

[Little Newms]

Does mark know that it only works if you tilt your head in f1 cars

 

[MarkCup]

Does mark know that it only works if you tilt your head in f1 cars

No matter how much I try I can't stop doing that!

 

[Peperami]

Cars almost completely standard too... says lots for mods vs driver training.

 

[Jay Payne]

Is that why yours is going back to how Dieppe intended?

 

[MarkCup]

Cars almost completely standard too... says lots for mods vs driver training.

I had semi-click track tyres on - probably worth 2-3 seconds per lap.

Looking at my lines on that clip though, there's still another 2-3s to be had.

 

[dave b]

i read it had de cat ,ecu, air filter and exhaust.Whats that gonna be making then ,about 180 bhp?
Just shows its more about power to weight and driver ability than big bhp numbers.

 

[MarkCup]

i read it had de cat ,ecu, air filter and exhaust.Whats that gonna be making then ,about 180 bhp?
Just shows its more about power to weight and driver ability than big bhp numbers.

180 is ambitious - The ECU adds nothing other than a higher limiter so probably a real 175 or so.

Don't plan on touching the engine any further, brakes are top-notch already, just got to finish stripping it, then fit steering wheel, seat, harness, and some proper suspension next year.

 

[Peperami]

i read it had de cat ,ecu, air filter and exhaust.Whats that gonna be making then ,about 180 bhp?
Just shows its more about power to weight and driver ability than big bhp numbers.

Lol, stealth exhaust that makes little difference, and same for the ecu.

And an itg panel filter :clown:

 

[A18XHO]

Mega driving!!!! What suspension do you have?? looks prety standard

 

[MarkCup]

Mega driving!!!! What suspension do you have?? looks prety standard

It is. Standard springs, standard dampers, standard everything on the chassis except brakes and tyres.

 

[dave b]

how many times have you driven combe circuit?
easy circuit to learn but unforgiving if you drop it.

 

[MarkCup]

That was my 2nd time there I think - been back 3 or 4 times since though.

 

[GarethM]

good driving

 

[Leeshez]

Nice

 

[dave b]

heres a lap of combe from my on board camera,not quite same time as yours but this is a bit of a scruffy lap ,i did go a bit faster than this but this is only clear lap i have on video.
Still im fairly pleased with it!.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c5bf7718-9ad4-4331-8b05-99670020159e.htm

 

[Jay Payne]

Good vid^

 

[MarkCup]

heres a lap of combe from my on board camera,not quite same time as yours but this is a bit of a scruffy lap ,i did go a bit faster than this but this is only clear lap i have on video.
Still im fairly pleased with it!.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c5bf7718-9ad4-4331-8b05-99670020159e.htm

Standard? Sure I could hear some brakes squealing?

Nice lap though - rapid too if the timing's right - 1:20? Have I really got that much to find?

 

[dave b]

No not standard,that laps a 1.21/1.22 by my reckoning.Havent been again yet but should duck into the 1.19's now as ive reduced weight and removed o.e suspension and fitted coilovers.

 

[MarkCup]

 

[dave b]

thanks dude.

 

[MarkCup]

So, I'm intrigued, breakdown where your 9 seconds comes from?

Line?
Brakes?
Tyres?
Engine?

I had that sort of time difference at Rockingham between me and a well driven Honda powered Elise (to be expected) - I'd have thought I'd be on a par compared to a ZS180.

 

[dave b]

You would be on a par with a standard zs 180 ,i did 1.29 on my first visit with just breathing mods but my cars not a standard zs 180!
I have a lot of experience on track tbh,i used to have race karts and used em every week so i learnt a thing or 2.
Apart from that i have a higher power to weight ratio and a more modified car ,the time is made up all round the lap from later braking ,faster through the apex's ,earlier on the power exiting ,faster acceleration etc ,its not one thing its multiple factors that when all added up make a decent lap time.

Tbh ive been on track with many elises and exiges and theres only been one i couldnt keep up with ,it was an elise and it had a supercharged honda civic type r engine conversion,so my car does have real pace.

 

[Peperami]

Id have thought mark had the better standard power to weight though, is yours modified at all dave?

 

[MarkCup]

Yeah come on tell all...what's yours running?

I know what you mean about the technique and lap strategy though. What I've changed over the last two years since I really started focussing, practicing and learning has made a massive difference.

You've just illustrated very nicely that I still have SO much to learn though

 

[dave b]

Peperami,yes i have already posted my car is modified,it only makes 210 bhp but it weighs less than a standard 172 cup,last time i had it on the weighbridge it was 1020 kilos ,ive since removed about another 25 kilos.
Big ,but lightweight all alloy v6 motor with 180+ lb ft torque in a shell with nothing but a carbon fibre seat inside ,makes it fairly quick.

 

[MarkCup]

Sounds nice. Let us know when you're at a track nearby, would love to see this in action.

 

[dave b]

im going to combe in may with trackmasters (stormy from scoobynet) come along if you want ,or i could get your name on the list ,i think its 149 quid.
Ive been with em a few times and they a good bunch ,good organisation and good driving standards.

 

[dave b]

heres one o my vids if your interested.
Silver elise was running track tyres and pushing 170 bhp through a tweeked k series ,the exige was a 220s model and i was right at the edge trying to hang on to him ,there was a 190 vvti exige there too and that one i could just beat,(got vid of that too) .
My car was on standard brakes apart from pads and standard suspension apart from springs ,this is at donington park earlier this year .
Click on the little symbol bottm right of the screen to watch on full screen ,turn sound up and enjoy.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/36520eed-e180-4429-86df-993c00bf9122.htm
Dave

 

[dave b]

is this clio anyone on here ,one of my donington videos,just a minute from the end theres a red 182.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/fc4bae43-a9af-474a-86e7-99cc003970ce.htm

 

[JoelDee]

Nice driving

 

[Reyes]

Mint!!

 

[HartZ]

Nice driving pal

 

[martynrg]

nice drivin!

is that another video of yours chasin the caterham??? oooops!!!

 

[dave b]

could be ,if you click on my user number on streetfire you can pull a whole page of my vids up ...which vid do you mean and weres it at ?.

 

[dave b]

do you mean this one ?
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/d420c7f6-c5a9-4cb7-8094-993b011ca28a.htm
orange caterham and a porsche 968 who wasnt to keen to let me past ,so i just went round the outside of him and out dragged him down the straight.

 

[Ali]

I'd give you a run in my grans berligo!