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PH1 172 (sloooow) Project



Evening,

Finally renewed my membership after a few years of a poverty account just lurking in the General Chat.

Back Story:

I’ve had this 172 since 2015 after getting a Seat Cupra earlier that year and still having the RS bug (had a 182 then a 225 F1 before the Cupra)

Paid £650 for it with 56k and next to no history (inc no belts…). My intentions were to run it until the MOT ran out then take it off the road and renew as much as i could and make it a clean OEM+ car i could take out when i fancied.

I bought it from Grimsby with the great salty air these cars just love.

Life/buying a house/life got in the way and it’s been pretty much stored in the garage ever since. I did put it back on the road in 2019 and did next to little no driving in it as it desperately needed work (and the belts STILL needed doing).

It’s a great car, i loved driving it and i’ve got that itch to slowly start working on it now.

Current State:

So it’s currently sat in the garage, not been started in months and sitting on just under 59k. If i charged the battery i’m 100% certain it would start straight away. I think the MOT tester was being very lenient when i had it tested in 2019, there’s a lost of rust near the arches and under - I have yet to take off the rear door cards to take a proper look but i know it will need some cutting / welding.

I’m hoping i can leave this job until last and find somewhere local to weld / get it sorted then painted to finish. I’m based in Barnsley, i know there’s a few members on here from South Yorkshire.

Every other thing listed on the MOT is something i’d be wanting to replace or sort out anyway.

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Plan:

This is going to be a slow project, money isn’t great at the minute so i’m slowly going to be buying parts to build up for each area to complete then do.

I want to start at the rear, i’m far from experienced and it’s been years since i did much more than brakes (did the starter motor last year though, what a tw@t) but hopefully that will build me up for doing the front.

I want to refresh everything at the rear that needs / i can.

Springs (Cooksports still the thing?)
Suspension (OEM?)
Brake Discs/Pads
Brake Callipers (refurb somewhere/myself or buy some others?)
Braided Brake Lines
Rear Beam removed - stripped and painted.
Exhaust Mounts (not sure what’s the done thing now)
Exhaust Replaced (not sure what here)

There’s probably stuff i’ve missed, anything i can’t take off i’ll clean up, paint or seal where i can.

(after all that i’ll then move to the front, same again then wheels, body work, belts etc..)

ANY comments are welcome, whilst i don’t want to go crazy on uprated parts i also don’t want to go cheap that it’ll need replacing a year after. I also know some OEM parts are hard to come by now. I want to keep the car as close to original as i can with some subtle upgrades that make it that bit better.

I’ve been out of the Clio game for a while, back when i had my 1.2/182 i’d spend all my spare time just reading through the threads on here. I’ll be starting that again with the project threads to get some ideas!

Cheers all!

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Clio_fool

ClioSport Club Member
Sounds like a good project, but how rusty is it really as that's whats killing off mk1's.
If you need any help give me a shout, I'm near Barnsley and very well practiced at swearing at clio's now😂👍.
 
Sounds like a good project, but how rusty is it really as that's whats killing off mk1's.
If you need any help give me a shout, I'm near Barnsley and very well practiced at swearing at clio's now😂👍.

That’s what scares me, i don’t know what’s too much for it to be a dead end or costing more than i’d expect to sort!

Appreciate the offer, i’m sure there will be a point where i’ll give up hope trying to do something, swear then leave it all untouched for weeks :LOL:
 
So earlier i decided to bite the bullet and take the rear door cards off for the first time to take a look. Just as i expected, it was brighter than the sun in there.

I’ll start with some slightly nicer pictures.

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The not so nice ones, it’s fairly soft inside a screwdriver would go through pretty easy.

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Passenger Side

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Driver Side

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Awkward View from passenger side under

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Hopefully someone will see these and say oh that’s simple enough chopping some new ones in (but i’m lowering my expectations).

I’m not sure what the options are to replace if it’s do’able. I keep seeing these linked in places

 

Bluebeard

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
If I was you (and assuming you’re in this for the long haul) I would get it up on axel stands and get the rear beam, fuel tank, side skirts and exhaust off.
assess the situation properly.

if repairing all of that is beyond you, get someone in to cut out and weld in all the new metal, then you can refurbish bits as you go and build it all back up.

Doing ‘just enough’ to get it through an MOT and looking nice will bite you in the ass in 1-2 years time.
 

Mr Underhill

ClioSport Club Member
You mentioned earlier in your post that money wasn’t great at the moment and that’s a fair bit of work that’s going to cost a chunk if done by a bodyshop.

I agree with the above that if you love the car, don’t bodge it. If it was me and money was tight, I’d gently agitate the rust, smother it in Hydrate-80 - inside and out - then crack on with smaller jobs.
 
Thanks for the comments everyone.

Whilst I'm happy to attempt the 'mechanical' parts of the car the bodywork / welding is far beyond anything I could do and would have to go to a bodyshop for the work.

I'm in it for the long haul with the car but I think I need to work out my expectations and actually start putting some savings aside that's dedicated to the car overtime to complete it (the bodywork).

After the last couple of years we've had and seeing It sat there every time I take my main car out I'm just ready to go out and drive it during the summer and enjoy the time. If I can stabilise the current condition of the rust from inside/underneath in every part, clean it up, stop, protect, paint then I'm happy to do so for now and work with the actual body & welding work in the future BUT.. that's only if completing that will prevent it getting any worse and be not worried every time it went out into the elements.

If that's not an option and it will only make it worse then that's fair enough, it can sit there for however long until I'm able to complete.
 

172PH1

ClioSport Club Member
  Ph1 172
They are worth saving man, ours was in a similar state underneath, but its a slow rolling project
 
So just over 2 years and I’m back, wonder if I’ll be reading this post in 2026 with no progress made again! :D

I admit I've neglected the car more than i did before and became blind to it being there (even though I have to move around it when pulling into the garage each and every day! I was used to charging the battery up regular and turning it over but the last time it was started was 2 years ago...

Got a new battery, made sure it was fully charged and put it in. Turned it over and it started instantly with no hesitation! Moved it out of the garage for a quick clean to remove the dust and a vacuum inside and out.

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Got an itch that hopefully won’t stop and put this on hold again, behind the door cards are further up this thread. I decided to take the skirts off and take a look at what was hiding underneath.

The drivers side is much worse than the passenger side. Everything else under is also not in an amazing state but nothing that can't be stripped & painted or replaced. With the little knowledge i have but the support of the forum & internet I’m eager to do all those bits but there's little point until i know the bodywork and the rest is structurally sound otherwise it's a waste of money.

Passenger Side




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Drivers




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The hole just started to appear the more i poked on the drivers side, didn't push too hard on the pessenger but it doesn't seem as bad (but still not good!)

Seen people buying the outer sills from Ebay, are these any good or are there better places to buy from? Roughly what sort of of price am i looking for these to be cut out and welded back in? (probably without paint for now) Assuming i should get some work done on the inner sills at the same time to make it all sound.

Based in Barnsley, South Yorkshire if anyone has any recommendations.
 


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