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scudetto, damn right. Its just cars, and in medieval times when horses were cars you wouldnt not ride one just because its teeth rattled and there was a bit too much coming out of the exhuast. phill*

tomclio you suck hehe

build all depends on what your individual cars like. Some clios fall apart some dont.... the ones that dont are a great second hand buy (but how would you know??) but will still have rattles, much more than a leon which is VW build.

i agree m8. i got my 172 for an absolute steal so when i come to sell it in 2.5yrs only need £2500 to pay of my finance. so i should be able to put some money towards megane rs :D + my clio hasnt so far (touch carbon) developed any probs i think the last batch may have had some niggles...

havin a moan is good for you. and promotes discussion so hows about this for a moan: everything about the clio could be described as sh*tty and low quality, i dont dare hit the dash for fear of air bag going off, its just a can with wheels but i fu*in love it, more because it feels light and...

deprectiation is an isssue bike man, sorry but iam not the only one whos losing out here. phill*

thing is im not botherd about the update anyways. just makes mine seem slower to everyone else. example "nice clio over there" "yup its the 172" "but its not the fastest theres a 182 now isnt thre?" "yeah that rocks" even when the answer should be "yeah but its actually no faster"

nah... its just cars, girls excite me more :) phill*

17" tyres will slow the thing down. I like the twin exhuasts but dont think its as cool as a descreet single tail pipe. and even better is the fact that the only car ive ever had not showing and ugly exhuast is my current MKII. exhaust have been tarted up to look flash but at the end of the day...

so when do we have a megane forum starting up then? and can we have a sticker renaultsport or meganesport aswell? phill*

tomclio16v.. sarcastic sh*t. Sorry for being a lame ass,not. who cares anyway. Turbos are the way to go for massive midrange and torque and megane RS will have all the things we want, but it will be out of most peoples price range £18000 in topgear mag. Ill get it because if id "read the...

that car picture is on the 172 gallery with smaller wheels? so this picture is alterd. phill*

bigger alloys slow car down, bigger tyres more traction more friction. so this is just another renault p*ss take, not respecting their customer base. there doesnt seem a point to this new car its just to oik out a little more life out of the clio mkII until next clio arives. phill*

turn ESP off, its no good for winter phill*

sh*t, ohh well, now i guess il start to put my foot down... ive been takin it eas with my new car becuase it woz important to have a good resale value in two years. FK.it im just gonna mullar it and enjoy the ride. 180 bhp 8 diffo? wow... not. im still looking at my next car already (megane...

lambourghini countach from salvage.

get 2s

i dont know?

whats the best panel filter to go for? where in the UK can i get a K&N panel filter for clio MKII 172? what price. Also honestly, does it add 2bhp at speed? any suggestions, i may leave the standard one in. but it doesnt seem to be hard to swap and change on a weekend if i go crusing i could...

hehe ooops! yea i know that was lame. Phill* but they wont buy it anyways with my turbo fitted

hi, true. but I dont know if that would put me off buying a second hand car for £6000 with full renault service history. They are becoming more common as people go with internet buyers + mine has a better cdchanger than standard and cool looking europlates. guess we will have to wait and see...

hi, yeah after all is said and done i paid £12000k for a car. Thats Focus money but i get more stuff (climate,sixcd,ESP,TC,ABS, side airbags ((some focuss dont have abs!!)) Xenons, spare alloy, leather, etc.. the list is long and the engine sounds great even though i dont have soprts exhaust...

hi, just wondering if anyone has any idea as to how much my clio MKII 172 with sixcdchanger (53 reg) will be in two-three years time?? it will only hopefully have 25K on it max prob 22K. it keep it in a warmish garage on a night so hopefully that might have a positive effect? i only paid...

hi, the only thing wrong with mine is that theres wind noise at 70+mph but that probably a design thing and i only go up to 70mph (cough..) :D phill*

hi, they dont but they would sell me the car without a cat1 so thats was fitted by them incluse of the price i mentioned and the cd changer is not in the Gash place is normally is, thankfully its under the drivers seat so i can change if im in traffic without looking like a have a single...

hi, yer pays yer money y take your chances, thats all i have to say. also my clio seems very well built so far. phill*

hi, got mine from motorpoint of Derby. Hope that helps! phill*

wow! thats cool. 188bhp from a chip! kinda reminds me of the claim Rica tunnig made but thats real! + so just how much is your cars engine gonna be knackerd now, 5 hours constant rolling road!!!! at highest speeds. phill*

hi, "Simon - I think youre right, and thats why I got mine chipped;" where you get it chipped and for that power your talking about? bhp wise phill* sorry thats slightly off topic

hi, sounds interesting what gains in numbers and how does it feel to drive. Phill*