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All booked now. We're flying to Krakow then driving. First leg is the worst, Krakow to Donetsk. then Donetsk to Kiev and finally Kiev back to Krakow. Got a KA to do it as well, £133 for 8days seems okay tbh.

I keep looking at golfs but the price always puts me off. Looks very nice though, except the seats, not a fan of them at all.

Ahh cheers anyway, I will have to dig out my phrase book!

erentals seems to be the cheapest I can find, a KA for £118 and I know theyre good on fuel, although not a great place to sit on long journeys.

Yeah will send them an email before booking. Found a KA (or similar) for £135 for a week. Seems a good price.

Looking like Krakow atm cos its quite west, not booked any flights yet though. Well its more like 3000miles in total. 1500 is just the trip to Donetsk haha. Main thing is MPG.

Ahhhh will do, been eying up a Suzuki Alto, although a Clio is only £11 more for the week. Im sure the alto will be better on fuel though? Yeah they are but we're only going to the first two group games, which are Donetsk then Kiev.

We've had a re-think, would be as cheap to fly to Poland and then get a hire car and drive the rest. Unbelievably we would still have 1500miles to drive to get to Donetsk but it should be fine.

mmm...just been having a proper look and it looks like the second day on the way will be close to 1300 miles, I'm not even sure that is do able tbh :/ Most Ive ever done in one day is just over half that.

Yes, many times, but the flights are a 'mare. A direct flight would take about 4hrs but they arent available and connecting journeys take at least 12hrs each way and cost twice the price of driving. Plus we have to travel pretty much the full length of Ukraine in between games which is also a...

Sadly not, the Euros.

Its not so much a road trip, more of a commute :p

Ukraine, from South Wales.

Will be mainly 5 long stretches of driving. Most Ive done before was a trip to the 'ring last year. This time would mean driving close to 1000miles in a day :/

Not a good look IMO.

Needs a new drivers seat. Cambelt is wayyyyyy overdue. About a mouthful of petrol in it.

? Cheers in advance.

a bit of WD40 worked a treat, cheers man.

Have changed the bulbs in both but they still dont work. The indicator and reverse lights work fine. Any ideas what it could be?

The air con alone was enough for me to choose a normal 172. Some people 'can live without it', I cant.

Get beats Solos.

Type 95 is way to overpowered, its just silly.

He might be stuck there for a while.

Massive crash on the M5. 30 people injured. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-15603124

Looks in a hell of state.

Re: ???????? mines a 51 plate 172 on 86k. no proof they've been done :/

get Astro A30s. theyre great and not too expensive. not wireless though.

Ph2. looks slightly less dated than the ph1.

The ST isnt going to have 3 door option?