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Look just as good now as they did in 2011 :cool:

Thats makes sense then, circa 66-70 on gps then, which is ok for the 197/200's relatively short gearing, explains your better than usual mpg :)

Just out of interest, what sort of speeds do you have to do to get 33mpg. Normal motorway speeds or slipstreaming trucks at 65?

No, you're missing my point, everyone assumes the GP has terrible mpg (it doesnt btw, im getting 34), but it is considerably better than the 28-29 i got from the 197. It would also rip a 197 a new ar5ehole. The difference is, whilst the R32/M3 justified their sub 30 mpg by being quick (the M3...

Have you owned both? Or perhaps used them for exactly the same journey day in day out? 100 miles, motorway, sat at 75-85. I have btw.

They arent anywhere near as quick as an R32 lol. And i got the same mpg. For reference, my GP, which has 'terrible mpg' is also doing far better than my 197 ever did ;)

Gorgeous, & proof if it was ever needed, that OEM+ is best.

"Hi, is that Chris Harris?" "Its Renault here, we know you love FWD race cars, how would you like to drive the new Cup Racer?" "Oh, yes please, that would be ace!!" "Ok cool, you can have a play for a couple of hours at Stow" 2 months later, Chris arrives at Stow: "Hi Chris, you can only drive...

Was just thinking that, its a 182 so xenons/washer jets would have been standard? New bumper fitted perhaps?

Agree 100%. 4 minutes of drag race, then 1 minute of where i felt Chris wasn't really being particularly honest, a bit corporate if you will, the clio is lovely, nice & soft for the road, blah blah blah. Then 3 minutes of the Cup Racer, because he ran out of nice things to say about the 200. For...

Worked for me.

They all crash in the rain iirc. No abs = instant death. Which reminds me, its Cup Killing season soon.

Really? Decent Trophy = £4k Decent 182 = £2.5k Cost of coilovers, Recaro's & Turinis for normal 182 = £1.5k 182, plus modifications = same price as just buying a Trophy in the 1st place. Perhaps, although that one only had 160 odd bhp lol. I passed the Ph2 as well iirc, it was spinning off...

From memory, ive only been on track with you at Bedford, in the shed i bought off Greg lol. Anyways, we digress. The Trophy is the best one out the box. Simples. Need to get the GP on track with some clio's now ... ;)

You were in your TURBO'd PH1 clio when you went past me iirc, which isnt really surprising lol. I wasnt really referring to that f*cked thing anyways, more the ShedTrophy.

Having been on track numerous times over the years in 99% standard Trophy's, i can safely say that cammed/ITB'd/stripped 1*2's didnt tend to trouble me. Im sure Sam@BTM would say similar.

lol

As said, Leeroybrown owned it until Feb '13.

I might be able to help there ;) Had a 182 with both cup packs back in 2005, then a 172 Cup in 2007, then 3 Trophy's from 2010 onwards ... Also sold a 197 Cup with Recaros as it wasnt a patch on the Trophy.

And certainly better than the GP on 18" runflats lol

Same. To get something similar, but from a different marque, ive had to spend 3 times the price!!

Re: My new car. TTQS Do it yourself!! The oil is only £50 ... Haldex tool is circa £25 iirc. Dead easy to do as well.

Wouldnt be any point. The only person thats actually taken delivery of a 200T is Boosh's mum iirc. Factories not tooled up to make any from my understanding, hence them trying not to sell them in the dealers.

Cliotrophy is your friend here. They use a specific Eibach spring, but Sportlines work well with them as well.

lol. Hopefully not!! Only spent a couple hundred on it so far :rasp: Really easy!! The lead i got from Newministuff (http://www.newministuff.com/new/shop.php?action=productshow&id=761) combines both Parrot wiring, SOT lead & MFSW interface into one loom, so makes for very easy fitment. Only...

I like the V12's personally, buy them for all my new cars. Their cheapness allows me to replace all 4 at once as well - i hate having different tyres on each axle!

So the last week or so, has been spent tinkering :star: 1st up, old floor mats (& their holes) were upsetting my eyes: BMminiparts had some of the genuine GP ones for just under £50 (how much? For 2 mats lol), but they have the red stitching, so i got them bought: Much better!! Then...

Its on the cliotrophy Register: http://www.cliotrophy.co.uk/forum/showthread.php/45076-025 Leeroybrown owned it on here, Steve at R. Sport Cars sold it to him iirc.

Is that a 405 Mi16 in the top pic? LCR's are lovely btw, nearly got one back in '04 but ended up with the Z3M instead.