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How can more people buy 2nd hand cars?? They are all ready on the road?? Unless you live in a dump, and more poor people can afford them?

I was joking. Stop being senile.

Worms, can of...... The GTi feels more nimble, lighter. The R32 sounds massively better, feels more 'solid' when driving. I prefer the GTi.

From some sheep?? ;) Seriously, great cars. They do the everyday stuff so well, but still good to drive when you push hard. More fun than a standard 197 imo.

Sorry, but xenons etc in standard reflector is retarded. Totally unsuitable set-up, guaranteed to dazzle oncoming roadusers. Reflector units designed for halogen should never be used for xenons!

Exactly. Common sense failure on the OP's part.

How exactly are they boring out of the box?

He was joking!

I was missing Gally. But you're here to mention ford in every thread

Exactly. Value is subjective!

The wheel in the 182cup is more basic, so doesn't melt as a result. Also slightly thinner rim, I preffered it. To some people pleather and xenons aren't that important. To other people, they just wanted the cheapest option.

Gutted. Hope they are ok.

Typical CS mini-bandwagon. The 197/200cup aren't pointless, but the 182cup is? Idiots!

I'm in.

Ah, got you. I suppose that's the issue, hot hatch market is getting more congested, attracting new buyers must be a big factor.

Try contacting mtaudio. Sure he'll be able to help/

I've just got 400miles out of 1 tank in the 200! Very impressed. And your post completely contradicts your previous one?

Aaaaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhhh! Is everyone unable to read????????? The 2l engine in the 200, meets the upcoming regs!! (or can be made to ;)) The general public are the ones demanding more mpg, it's supply and demand.

Of course they can be compared! Why? Because people who are genuinely interested in cars, want to see it. I would say an exige can be compared to a gt3. A gt3 to a scuderia. Price, bhp means nothing in the equation.

Nonsense. Utter garbage. So now we can't compare 2 hot hatches because of the price difference? So can we not compare a 911turbo with a gallardo? Or a 458? I think you kids are forgetting that comparing, and considering buying both are 2 different things. And as in all these situations, the...

No. Similar size, but one doesn't have the added weight and losses of a 4wd system. He said rolling, so traction isn't an issue.

Rofl.

It's being made good before it goes in.

I think with the bigger cars, the only way to get co2 levels manageable across the range is with the turbo's. Ridiculous given that there's very little real world economy difference, they just excel on a bench test. The 200/197 engine can be made compliant for the upcoming euro regs (and...

Clearly has an interest, otherwise he'd be looking at a diesel fabia. In that case the trophy is the better option if he can afford it.

The 200 doesn't seem to kangaroo? But I always spend a minute or so with the engine on setting up the stereo, Bluetooth etc. The engine is not being binned, 100%. As said, they'll be common place in a sports car soon. Not sure if that means they are keeping it in the Clio though.

Just get the led removed. Will be savage with the decats.

Actually, should of just sc'd a 172. Those have worked out reeeeaaaaalllllly well.

Mare to fit on the 200 by all accounts. Revoknuckle style nonsense on a car with bugger all torque. Thanks.

I've owned both the options you're considering. I won't even bother addressing the fool that feels the road optimised trophy is pointless unless you go on track. IMO, the 182 with cup packs is more fun than a trophy (standard) on track, it's a bit more adjustable. If you can afford it, get a...