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but hello weight saving of about 1/2 ton ;)

honest??? lol. there are times/places for giving it a bootful. and theres this thing called roadcraft, experience, call it what you will. im not saying iv never hit anything, but in the 25 years driving so far(a couple of years illegally ;)) nothings hit me. there have been close calls, but...

unless im in the trophy....then il be the 1 behind the 1 in front ;)

thats exactly it mate. the on/off throttle adjustability just isnt there. i like to be able to get a bit of LOO at request, not when it feels like it.

well iv had 'aids' fr 11 years. im still living ;) shell...again, no real issues in that dept. either. no abs. ....id prefer nothing i drive to have it tbh. like tc and esp etc etc etc. takes away from the driver feedback. no airbags and ncap...dont crash........simples. day to day, il still...

a silver 1 too?? ;).....no thanks on the cup tbh. the interiors dire. id rather have an old skool mini ;) i got it cos it was cheap. end of really. who said it was s**t?? iv never said they were. just not as good as the willy imho. and on my private test track the trophies left lacking. until...

thing is tho. the money iv got it for, il always make a profit. so a bit of an investment, and to see what the fuss is about. they are supposed to be the best of the bunch, the next best thing to a williams....and i have to agree. ;).... i have always said tho, if, and i mean IF i was going to...

no probs mate. might struggle to make it off the drive to the main road at the mo tho lol.

where you get that idea?? the williams is still a better car than the trophy imho. handle better, are comfier, quicker, rarer, better looking..........i could go on. the trophies only plus point over the willy so far is its ability to handle bumps better. its not as direct, isnt as quick...

lol.....surprised i havent been pulled with the plates yet tbh.....and the errrr....noise.

no 81.

lol..for that price id be sendin em elsewhere. end of the day, its a shock. anyone who rebuilds em for a living will know what they doing with em.

still 600 a piece aren they new?? 450 for full refurb.

nowhere near as macho as the sports blue/gold combo of the willy ;) . and so far...not as quick on my personal test track. but i do need to get some decent tyres on it and get the shocks refurbed. and obv. i will get more used to it in time.......feel at 1 with the williams, steering weight...

both lol.

only 1 i have at mo..

iv succumbed to the gayness....and now own 1. how weird.

cant have a flatshift with h pattern boxes??? hmmm. iv been doing this for years. you could also get an ecu that supports flat shifting too, and go about it that way. gotta say, im with rob on this 1. the price of the box worth the extra few .10's over the stage??? be better spent elsewhere imho.

i always end up with penalties at eau rouge..lol.....just never seems to be able to take it flat.....

looking good. just got back into 2010 recently. the ability to catch and drift will be good....u know i like a bit of sideways motion lee ;)

williams no.s 159 and 51.

exactly how it is. an mot means its fit for purpose at that exact time. anything could have been changed in the 2 days since the mot. the station will argue the point. you havent a leg to stand on there im afraid.

+1

remember owning this badly at the used car buyer shoot....had to wait ages for you to catch up ;) shame to see it go mate. good luck with ze german.

they werent then either. blue and white, with red front end on mansells iirc....and gold pinstriping.

yeah, maybe quite a lot of the replies were a little harsh tho?? end of the day its his choice is it not?

would i paint a williams...yes...i wouuld have no problem with that. would i paint it because of a football team....no. the OP has already stated its a silly idea but one that hed be tempted to do. who are we to argue?? i drive a spider infested rust ridden shed. you drive an over...

and LOL at there NOT being a clique. open your eyes lad.

just not your mates??

lol. im deeply hurt lol. feirny..everyone has an opinion , perma bans dont count for the clique huh?? rules are rules...and when they are broken you as mod should be seen to act on them, not sweep them under the carpet cos its 'your mate' thats broken them.