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driven both - 197 feels like it has no torque at all compared to a 225 (or even dCi) look on www.autotrader.co.uk - 225 cups from £11K with under 20K miles!

I changed 15 to 17 and felt no different except hard ride.

I paid thro. the nose @ Superchips @ 460, but about 300 is going rate from others...........

tiny difference - about 2% in overall diameter cos tyres lower profile (that's 205/40x17 to 185/55x15 standard non-182 wheels) if anyone can tell difference, I'd be surprised!

my Superchips strong re-map (80-110) and K&N filter will see off a Mini Cooper! mind you it's the 170+ torque that does it - a standard 80/100 has about 130

Pristine Wheels in Woburn did my old 17's in a wicked 'high quality' mid-grey anthracite for about £220

MINT 'O5' dCi 80 dynamique with air for 5K If you thing they're slow, try mine (re-mapped to 110bhp & 172lb/ft)- quicker than a mini cooper group 3 insurance, £50 a year to tax, 18K service intervals, 60mpg you could save a few £100 a month at same time and get a 'proper' hot hatch in 2...

a re-mapped 80 dci will see off a standard mini cooper a 1.4 would be a long long way in the dust 60mpg easy, 40mpg @ constant flat-out 120mph! MINT dci 80's with moderate milesage for under 4K

mines low enough to hit the floor on a regular basis - fnarr fnarr ;-0 40mm is more like 50mm @ front with a diesel lump

try getting a pic of 40mpg average @ 120 miles an hour - I thought about it!

obscene amount of money for a 'warm' hatch you can have a MINT low mileage 182 on a '55' for 11K or an '05' Meg 225 Cup Turbo for 11-12K

no one else dare attempt it? I wanted a 172, but did this calc. first!

REALLY REALLY BORED, so......... How much has your car cost you per mile? Depreciation - £10100 less value now (4500) = £5600 Fuel @ £4 per gall & 60mpg = £3333 Tax (four years) = £200 Insurance (four years) = £1200 Servicing (first free so only 36K) = £150 Misc (set...

there's a few round here there's also a black 182 with a HUGE lady with MASSIVE hair - look out for her! then there's a diesel pretender ;-)

WTF? - even Jade Goody looks better than this!

as Edde said, it is an 80. as for hitting 5K, I said it 'will'. With less miles, no re-map and no K&N it really really struggled past 4200rpm only tend to nudge 5K in fourth - quickest way to hit 100 with a Corsa disappearing in your mirrors! P.S: some very minor clutch slip if...

try 38mpg on a flat six mile stretch of motorway @ flat-out 120!

if it's only a runabout and wont do many miles go newer and poss higher miles 52/03 with 70k easy for that money

buy a Reno BUT keep 10 miles from a Reno dealer even the warranty is safe if use a VAT reg garage and genuine parts. I am very proud to say that my car has been nowhere near a dealer in about 30K

After 50K, a very strong re-map (110 & 177), K&N filter, no back seats, parcel shelf or spare wheel, the D is flying! - Pissed off a smokey old 'N' plate Imprezza by staying on his bumper car-hopping for 6 miles+ - Scalped Mini Coopers & Fiestas Zetec S (petrol) - Bated new shape 320ds...

you can get a MINT '55' 182 with a 4K on the clock for 10995!! with a private sale of yours (4K?), you're only looking @ 7K a decent loan (I got 5.5% with Zopa) will cost you: - £160 a month over 48 - £213 over 36 AND the car would be 100% yours @ end. *** ALL THOSE DEALER...

if all mods declared, would increase insurance a lot - maybe £3-400 pa or even uninsurable I only pay £350, BUT I pay £60 extra p.a. and have had 250 put on my excess for wheels and lowered sus only Re-map not declared - another £100 advised when i asked

crock of sh.it 115 bhp - should have spent the money on the engine. my Clio would pi.ss on that! spent £zillions, worth 6 or 7K?

Pristine in Woburn (near Milton Keynes) BRILLIANT - had my old 17's recoloured anthracite for about £20 extra

mileage?

as i've said before - 60mm drop and 18" Meg Trophy wheels required on 197

awesome, but bonnet a bit chav

the more cheap mint 172 and 182 I see, the more I wnat to find the extra running cost!

not on sale for about 10 days - pay over phone......