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My CTR is Nighthawk Black, looks amazing when clean and its pearl so has cool sparkly bits in the paint... Gets dirty in the blink of an eye! :sick:

Nah, its not as good as it was on the older cars, but there is a lot more low down grunt in comparison. With a couple of basic mods (i.e. zorst & filter) youll get more of a kick though! :cool:

Good lad... welcome to the party! ;)

Err... see my previous post... They are chalk & cheese, nowt like each other to drive and its very hard to choose between them, as one is better in some areas, the other better in different areas. Both great cars but I aint regretted selling the Clio!

I know of one thats run a 14.9 at York

No, the "York Dragway" we are talking about is not at Elvington, its in Melbourne just further on...

Yeah, got your text but it wont let me reply?! :confused: Met up with Ben (VTEC Abuser) on Friday, and also saw you run against Nick once, but I never found you for some reason... Anyway, was too hot and I thought my times were sh!t, but after watching what everyone else got over the 3...

Had a Cup before the CTR, totally different cars...

Takes a while to get used to driving them properly, had mine 4 months now and loving it...

Yup, thats where I was...

LOL It was like 0.1secs difference as standard I believe... ;) Tell me, do you honestly believe you have a 28% transmission loss?!

Was £25 for the power runs...

Nothing against you personally Yoz, it was just your name that was brought up by someone else, so I just used the figures I had, which just happened to be yours... :oops: So when have I been saying stuff about your car in the past?! In the past I have been defending it on the CTR forum, as I...

True... Its how it performs that matters, Ive just been using the RR to see how the mods have improved power & torque, but I also use the 1/4 mile times as a comparison. Will be at Pod this weekend! ;)

Guess where I had it done?! ;) Yup, was done at RE on Saturday...

You are hundreds of miles away from me though... :(

Heres your problem... 225bhp @ fly = 162bhp @ wheels (with a 28% loss) To get 225bhp @ fly from 176bhp @ wheels is actually a 21.8% loss, not a 28% loss as you think you are getting my multiplying by 1.28 Now nearer 20% is much more believable!

So all my engines were good?! If I use your loss value... 306 Rallye: 151bhp @ wheels = 210bhp @ fly (with just a panel filter) Clio Cup: 147bhp @ wheels = 204bhp @ fly (with just a Viper) CTR: 176bhp @ wheels = 244bhp @ fly (with just zorst & filter) However, I believe it may be...

Maths aint your strong point obviously... You do NOT multiply by 1.28 as you are not working with a 100% value in this case. The 176bhp @ wheels is 72% (100% - 28%) of the @ fly figure, which is the 100% value. Thus: (176bhp / 72%) x 100% = 244bhp @ fly Work back 244bhp, remove 28%...

Cant be much... my Cup had 147bhp @ wheels with just a Viper at 5k miles, standard 172s make low/mid 140s @ wheels and my old 306 Rallye had 151bhp @ wheels with just a panel filter!

Goes against everything else Ive seen/read/experienced then... So if my CTR has a 28% transmission loss and I have 176bhp @ wheels, then that means Id have 244bhp @ fly, which is a staggering 47bhp increase from a cat-back exhaust and induction kit! Im sorry, but that is blatently not the case!

Nope, the CTR actually has a higher transmission loss of 18% The 6 speed box and wider tyres make it a little higher than your average fwd car.

I am very f*cking happy though!!! :D

LOL Not in a million years... thats twice what it should be...

Also has a a zorst and grounding kit too... but basic, simple mods. Standard CTRs "should" make about 160(ish) at wheels in standard form, some more, some less.

I know I aint got a Clio anymore, but I had my car on the rollers too yesterday and its making 176bhp @ wheels... which was nice! :D

Thats bhp(DIN) which is basically ps and is marginally higher than what we here in the UK class as "bhp! i.e. 200ps or bhp(DIN) = 197bhp in UK terms.

Not in a million years... The transmission loss is around 15% on the Clio, so theres no way it has that much at the fly with only 150s at the wheels!

In a straightline race, the GTi-6 will lose in standard fom, but on the twisty stuff the 306 is very good... A 306 Rallye is pretty much on a par with a mk2 172 in terms of performance.

There are on here too though... same with pretty much all car forums...