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I think the milltek system on the 197 has a little bit more of a rasp noise if that makes sence. But the thing is with them they look terrible as their not slash cut to the diffuser. Have you considerd having the centre cention replaced with a straight through pieace of pipe alot cheaper and...

Are you going to have time in your life to sleep after work and dribbling over your new sunflower? ;)

Re: Clio Bargins. Cup spoiler,2.0 16v bullets and front diamond for £20 from a scrap yard that I heard about on here.

thing is with a missfire it could be alot of things. just go have a look if its really local and you want it. then just make him an offer which reflects what it could cost to get it repaired. whats the worst that could happen.

dont like tt's but that looks very nice and with 280 brake to play with i bet its fun.

Good stuff mate cheers for swaping with me. Tell you what you need a 3/4 plate.

No one would be 'right' this is my point, what could work for me is not going to be the same for the next person due to different driving styles etc. Hence why I keep saying its your opinion. Also I might add I don't rate the k-rev kit highly just thought it was better than stock for what I...

Can I just say I'm not looking for an argument and I'm not looking to fall out with people. I'm just trying to put my point across that handling is surly an opinion so you can't say I'm wrong when I say that I think their better than std suspension. Tony I have read in comment of yours in the...

lol i'll give you that i dont know my stuff like tony but what if someone who know's their stuff think's the cheap coilovers is better?

you bast@rds lol ;)

ok i see what your saying dannyr fair enough, but in my case i found the k-tec coilover to improve the handling due to reduced body roll leading to more confidents to go quicker which makes me think that the handling has improved. surly you or anyone else cant say 'your wrong' to me about that.

so ok you can get coilovers for cheaper than what standard suspenion is but with coilovers their built more focused towards handling than standard suspension as you know renault has to compromise to make sure it appeals to the mass market.

are you refering to this quote dannyr? because i dont see how dannny has 'just shown you need to spend at least £600 for decent suspension setup, coilovers or not.'

like you woud even get a serious anser out of clarkson.

really... he hasen't he's just showed what the prices are just because they cost £600 doesn't mean anything.

deep down i was thinking im right your wrong but that just my opinon.

acturley did lol.

basically im just saying the way you put it across is your right im wrong when personally i think its one of those things you cant be right or wrong. just look at it this way say if a f1 driver or some one of that calibar done a test on both set ups and said the cheap coilovers was better would...

yeah i saying their i think coilovers would be an improvement that my opinion and the next thing is how much you willing to spend as usally the more you spend the better the kits going to be. im not saying anything like its a fact, just my opinion.

so you have tested both and you think standard is better. that is your opinion not a fact. i said I THINK. you and tony said no its not better like its a fact. if hamilton tested both and he thought the coilovers was better for handling would that make it so?

yeah but the argument is 'does cheap coilovers improve handling over std suspension' and anyone who has compared the two think that the cheap coilovers is an improvment surly that their opinion and you cant say your wrong. also if you were to get fussy and say define handling they i guess you...

the thing is how can you say they dont improving handling surly its personal opinion?

i've had k-tec coilovers on mine and i think it handled better they gave me more confidences to go faster through high speed corners due to less body roll. plus their's hundered's of thread where people are also saying that they feel that their handling has improved with k-tec coilovers so i...

any coillovers with improve the handling i think, the question is how much do you want to spend.

looks smart that, need to take the white stickers off the driver and passanger windows though.

Yeah their is a few floating about without splitters, I heard something about they leaveing them off when fitting them at the factory?

Lmfao let me explain this, the spacers is attached to the hub and the disc you would need to remove the spacers to remove the disc.

That's epic. What is like driving with that?

cup spolier but no splitter :/ apart from from that great, car great buy.

Yeah should be ok claim for your neck as well if its hurting I would. And where are these pics?