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Yeah but all fast cars become chav cars as they get old and cheap.....its life, sad but true.... :( Simon

Thats NO concept cars, its a space frame racing car with a fibreglass body to look like a megane, buts It's NO Megane really :( Simon

I dunno know, I still reckon a well looked after 182 cup looks better myself, but I'm sure the 197 will grow on me.....in time (needs to be lower though) but as cars get older more are bought by chavs ( just witness the Scoobie/evo's:()..... ;) Simon

Mines in my garage, I wouldn't have a nice car without a garage, period. When I first met my wife she lived in town (2 up 2 down, street parking) and when parked over night there, I found Puke on my car, footsteps on my car and some scratches over the few months she lived there:( I vowed...

lol......yep you maybe right ;) Simon

197 looks good, if you like poeple carriers...lol...... ;) Way to TALL...... Simon

I quite like the 197 but NOT enough to buy one ;) They are just to high and only 156bhp per tonne, not enough for me :( They are the new 182 though, give it a few years and there will be 1,000's around and most people will like them then, just go over to the renaultsport forums, its like...

4500kgs = 220bhp per tonne ;) huge torque though..a little big for uk roads.......at almost 5 Tons :( Simon

Re: I f**king hate windows you and me both lol ;) Simon

NO seat belt then? just seen the pics and...thats a love tap mate, not a crash..... ;) Simon

lol...... :) Simon

Turbo.....looking for 500bhp, so I hear... :)

Mk1 v Mk2 Clio V6 3.0ltr 24v More or less the same car except Mk2 has: 33mm more front track 24mm more wheelbase stiffer springs different geometry Different cams new sub frames new plenum (better air flow) new gearbox (different ratio's) 255bhp against 230bhp for Mk1 18"...

Don't get me wrong, I think its great that Lewis is doing so well, however Senna, mansell and even MS, never had such a great car/team to start off thier F1 career's? Still I do wish him well, its nice to see a Brit doing so well for a change :) lets hope he can keep it up? Simon...

Best quote from program is "money well spent?, obviously not"...lol sorry mate, couldn't resist ;) Simon

No one said it was slow, its just not the fastest way to corner a race car on a race track.... ;)

Yeah cool, but I'd rather have the ones out of Aliens ;) lol Simon :)

You lots have lots of guts driving at those speeds on such a s**t surface, wouldn;t get me on an old airfield ;) Simon

agree.... :) thing is, they don't make either anymore and we are stuck with the 197 :( bye bye Renault :( I will be off to another marque next :) Simon

just as well, as you might be shocked to realise just how much a speedo is out at 140mph+ ;) 7-10% over read is norm :( Simon

same as usuall JR ;) bring a few more over here, a bit of "V6 defending" is required...as usual here ;) lol :) :) well I'm off out of a "blast" in my v6, have fun all :) Simon

Their are also better performing cars for the money than an M3, we could talk all day about this but the simple FACT is, the V6 255 is better/faster than a 182, period..... ;) unless you know of a std 182 that can top 153mph.....lol Simon

agree about the clutch though....v6 clutch's are s**t :( I'm on my second and only done 15k, not sure how long that will last... but not had a 350z get away from me yet ;) Simon if we all wanted real fast cars we'd buy a TVR T350..... :)

yeah but Autocar are crap.... ;) Simon

17.8 I read, therefore 3.2? :) but hey, whats 0.8s anyway....lol ;) Simon

you can think what you like, as can I, but I think you will find you are in the minority as regards the looks at least? :) Simon

3.2?

shouldn't that be "were not", as they have not made a new ones for some time...lol ;) Nobody I knew paid £27k for one either/ Simon

I don't get the 182's, looks like my mums shopping trolly (so girlie), good for shopping though...lol ;) Simon

NOT the one I have come up against....lol ;) Simon