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^^ I just took out all seats, threw in some 6,5 kg Sparco's , exhaust oem is a heavy mother so that's gone, all the trim is still in there . Weighed at 960kg without me in it. So that's what you get when you do'nt want to strip it totally

lol at this thread + replies ! But seriously ; my former scooby had a very noticable powerdrain from the airco ! Is'nt it also true that running airco worstens fuelconsumption up to 10%?

That was awesome!! even my girl liked it :eek:

Henk, Veban Rijswijk ^^^

Go a total different way , i would be checking the first lambda sensor.. the up+down revving is why i draw this conclusion. Had this too and was lambda. Nothing to do with the earlier whistle or brake pedal though. I can imagine the brakepedal being hit , drawing power from the circuit and...

^^ is it a 63mm inner diameter ? (or was it outer..?)

How many miles has your Trphy done ? I changed my mounts twice already in 70K.. makes a world of a difference

^^ well, that attitude is ruining a good engine ;) When worrying about damaging your car, do'nt take your car to work anymore but take the bike ! no matter the weather. These short trips are a lot, lot worse then a good thrashing. Actually , my knowledge is that these engines NEED the thrash...

^^ yeah skip it, i've read that the oem manifold is a very very good one ! Will never corrode or break. Performance wise very good aswell. Maybe you could some day put on a 182 mani that you come across cheap, then spend $$ putting it on hehe ;) (lots of work)

10 minute drives will kill your engine sooner than 100000 miles of thrashing

You'll need to drop the subframe i believe. Read around; plenty of info on this

I believe Mark Fi$h ones

hmm it seems he orders from the UK, so you can get it cheaper ! I remember looking at it last year and it came to 990euro's for us in the Lowlands. He (www.dutchpowertrading.nl) has an incorrect pricelist online atm though

They can be had here in Holland for under a 1000 euro's, i will check. Yes they're one of the more expensive ones they make

right.. big major bummer

^^ Tony, does this mean they also do the ones for the 172 Cup ?

Okay , look at MarkCup's car as an example to all you worrying lot, treating your cars like old people do. His car has been thrashed around all kinds of tracks + streets for 100,000 + miles !!! This engine seems to get faster with aging. Yes because it get's its' tits ragged off a lot :)

would think so ! And people, with these engines you have to rev it to get the optimal torque in the next gear too !

^^ this, but actually i did'nt know you were running an Omex /etc. When running oem ecu the first lambda is very much more important i think in comparison to your setup. Does the Omex use the first lambda data for AFR like the oem ecu ?

F4R engine's supposably almost never have a headgasket failure, rare to happen. Cold engine thrash will help to get there yep

I feel bad when i have not thrashed it ; thinking it might go "lazy" once.. I have a sort of rule that every time i run it , i have to redline it at least a couple of times. Only with a nice warm/hot engine ofcourse. It's good for cleaning valves etc. you know , + keeping the engine "loose"...

I'd stick with the first lambda , WHy change a lot of Renault research for a bit of unproven heatwrapping

Could you please share !? I got a "no" too at the dealer

You should hear mine when it's cold :eek: Been doing it for years ; fades away when warm so i'm not worried (anymore)

ordered from La France , or the UK ?

Yep, this would be nice Or... in the glovecompartiment like the Ragnotti 172

^^ Like a couple of posts back mentioned i first got the basic rev-matching (which comes naturally me thinks) , now the last year i have been trying the heel-toe and i am starting to get it down.. But i can't really blip the pedal to getr the exact revs , it seems such a unnatural...

springs wo'nt make a very positive difference to a already very good OEM setup. The Cup on OEM springs/shocks is very hard to beat performance wise..Coilovers in the 800+ pricerange will get you started. anyway, yours will certainly look better ! ;)

wo'nt get much better than the 182 mani me thinks, being already cramped in there as is

dephaser sounds more like your prob