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yea straight swap

i think its the early boxes. and it only seems to be some

Yes it seems it was the early boxes

Seems so. i think there mite be a faulty batch.

box out and either strip or replace.

Sat night in the park inn hotel telford.

yellow 197 f1 city motors. and racing blue 197 (i think) city motors.

Mounts seem to be better. Owners report 3rd gear problem.

i think reverse may have its own selector due to making the box spin backwards.

very strange i would have said some sort of box problem. its not external does the collor on the gear stick move ok? if so i would have said the selector fork in the box.

will it go in with out the engine running? try that and start the engine and see what happens?

Lol like im going to say anything mate i couldnt give a **** parts are idiots even if they notice it they cant do anything cos they have quoted you one question was it Tom or Spike? plus im at city motors at the mo. well untill tomorro that is i think.

Ben you took your car to S J Cooks didnt You?

Ahhhh he doesnt work there. you all i can say is they give you lots of discount 4 shockers at £30 are £120 think they have got it wrong.

Yes it was my 172, yours gets alot more abuse when i comes in our workshop :rasp: Easy to change but you are a student.

lol and next time you go to cooks and spot me in the car park post a spotted thread. hehe

on my log book it doesnt even say mines a sport it says its a clio RL cant remeber what happen when i insured it i dont think mine was recongised had to type it manualy

check the other thread

I would show them photos and look and find some on the internet for sale with similar age and mileage.

Temp sensor connections, theres always been a problem with these either tighten the pins or new sensor as well its located just behind the air box to the left in the thermostat housing if you take the elbow off you might see it easyier