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Do you think you'd ever buy a car you hated? So what if it's going to set your hair on fire, doesn't mean it's got to be something you hate. Also surely a true car enthusiast (I hate that term - I just see some chav in my mind) can appreciate cars for what they are? Also they will like pretty...

This. I've got a buy a house in the next 3-5 years, if I don't I'll be over 30 and that's a bit late. Then I can have a weekend toy - I've got it (mostly) planned out.

That was the main reason - loads of things started to go wrong on the 172 and it was due a big repair bill soon. I won't be keeping this past 3 years.

Really? I'm getting WAY better than that and I've only done 350 miles in it so far - could it be down to the 17 inch wheels this one is on?

So true - looks like a moon buggy!

I nearly did, but to get the deal I had to get one that was already on order and they didn't have any. It's not the end of the world since the clutch and gear change are both so light and you can move it around easily on the clutch alone. Part of me wishes I'd gone for the 1.4 TSI ACT though.

I nearly caved and went for the M135i deal... might see what's around in 12 months time. lol

Thanks mate - I reckon it's better looking than the non-ST Fiestas. And at the end of the day it's all about the deal, we got nearly £3.5k off the list price so can't argue with that.

So, I finally got rid of my 172 - I had it for 3 years and basically it'd gotten the point where I got fed up of fixing it every two minutes. Decided to get something on PCP this time as there were some good deals around, I'm also in the process of moving into the city centre of Nottingham so I...

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My iPad Mini Retina still suffers from the crashes. Might restore it and see what the outcome is.

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So you're saying it's not the same?

My guess is that they're designed to be strong only in an up and down movement. Not backwards and forwards.

Yeah but they were probably delivered by Ace Ventura.

This is completely mental!

Don't be a fool. Get it reported. If you're owed money you're owed money.

Me too!

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Renault_Clio_2.0_2004/p/car-parts/suspension-and-steering/suspension/suspension-arm-and-suspension-joints/?617745228&1&1292ec841e0ad8910e18cd7192bab4052eb76462&000019

I use the OCAP ones personally.

They're the same.

That's why I was checking, you'll just send the thing out of calibration. A torque wrench is only as good as it's calibration.

Oh yeah, absolutely. Just if you're worried about them coming lose.

Yeah are insanely delicate, that's why when I replaced mine I got them from Renspares and picked them up in person. Could you strip them down and superglue it?

Nope.

12mm for the sports, they are the same, just bigger.

They bolt on - it's the 10mm one for non-sports. Check your wishbone bushes though, 'cos if they're on the way out it's easier to just swap the arm while it's all in bits any way.

That's the most classy thing I've ever seen. No wait, the opposite of that.

Only thing I've actually seen that fixes it is a new set of seals from Renault.