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18? only if you fully load it and are to much of a pussy to ask for discount. try 13.5k for one with most compulsory options.

I can try on that - tbc as I live 30 miles away

Man is that on std hubs? That looks beefy as hell, looks lower 2....

I saw u 2

I am catered for as they take 2 helicopter landings per day

Thats me and Nick at teh French Sports Club meet! I know your car from CH, Ross your name is I believe... And my car was shockingly dirty..... I have seen your car before, even when it was standard (I went to all of 2x CH meets with my silver 182, same as Nicks seen here)

To be fair, I think most cars look better in the flesh. I think MOST photos are nowhere near justice.

Simon - comparing a 197 to ur v6 is stupid. Taller than the mk2 or not, its wider. and so is the track.

I only like white wheels on white cars hehe

Mine are on this link: http://public.fotki.com/RobHardyUK/cars/my_car/my-clio-197/

Kris - that would break down x10 more aswell (I know they can run 400bhp on std internals but all the same) comparing a 197 to that, is like comparing mayonaise to mustard, both good just one extreme or the other

I couldnt comment on overall duration of a 1*2 engine compared to a vw, as we all know, vw engines do last the miles NORMALLY, subject to some having major failures on the way, however in terms of niggles, i.e. coilpacks, electrical, any forms of control units (i.e. engine, convience control...

y would you want a vag engine, they have no character, and there so over ratted on the reliability front, I used to work for em for a year, and the same cars were in again and again for different things everytime.

You gotta be kidding, i have had all the listed here, and the honda had a higher plastic ratio than a barbie doll. Plus the dash looks like a merc sprinters just in silver. just about every rival to the ctr has a nicer interior, bar the rs1 172 as the colour cordination is a bit shite. secondly...

my rs1 was fine, as was my 182, and current 197 is good to, no probs so far at 4k.

and the 197 is the modern day replacement of the 182. And far better with it (Ive owned all)

yeah the m3 had the old stig. a r32 wouldn't stay within half a mile of a well driven m3. my dads owned both (a mk4 r32 anyway). m3 is a different ballpark. Remeber - it weighs about the same, its rwd (so far less transmission loss), and its 100bhp up. my own opinion, which is different to...

that pics quite good actually. Yeah it does show their brave to be fair.

the only thing i dnt like (bein honest) about the meg, is the back. I just cannot get used to it. other than that, I really like the front, most the side (the back coming into view). Cabins are nice to, and the obvious advantage is that the torque. To be fair, they cant really make the clio...

the front bumper is similar, thats about it. the window proportions, cabin, wheels, there all completely different.

greater ease, not speed. A well driven 172/182 would be the more able, worst case as able. there pounded with great comments. Granted yours looks like a trophy/cup so im sure its great. to be fair i think most hot hatches are easier to extract full potential out of that the 172/182, its...

meg is faster going straight, it aint quicker going left and right and under braking. same brakes (well same pads), clio weighs less. id put money on clio beating meg on a track. bar maybe full silverstone circuit.

cool write up, i agree with all but that. Mine is leagues ahead of either the 182 or rs1 172 i had. its the one area i think its brill..

Looks like mine :D

i think after a hour he will realise its a much improved car all round to the 182 ;)

Im loving my 197. its great. mahoosive improvement on my old 172 rs1/182, very happy.

Cool 197 ad!!

just buy a 172. it will be worth more when u sell it on then aswell. engine 3k, brakes 1k, suspension 500 quid... etc etc. js buy one. and turboing a skyline? GTS is single turbo and GTR twin. You've not done much research really.

steve from ukfn??

i have owned both rs1 172 and 182, and brought a 197 last weekend. I think its improved in every department. braking, more responsive steering (infact dare i say it - it seemed much more responsive), better gearbox, just as fast as either clio ive had after the 5k mark (tho slightely off pace...