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Update: Done 5000 miles in it since I bought it and so far its been pretty reliable, well for a Clio!!!! all its needed in 5000 miles/6 months is rear discs/bearings, 2 driveshafts, warranty replacement on one of the new shafts a month later, front wheel bearings, reverse light switch and a coil...
is it a dci 65 or 80? don't bother with exhausts and induction kits just stick a pipercross panel filter in the airbox and have the car remapped, expect 90bhp from a 65 or 115 from a 80 if that's the case
regardless of pace the 100 drives 10x better, and for that reason it makes a better commuter! that's where my money would be, well that's where my money went in the end up after owning the others lol
on my current one I replaced...
Bottom arms inc ball joints
track rod ends
track rods
steering rack bushes
top mounts
dampers all round
new springs
basically EVERYTHING that can wear, and still I had odd handling, took it all to get setup on my local hunter machine and straight away it showed...
fuel consumption there is next to zero in it few mpg between an 80 and a 100, 65's are in the middle.
I found insurance the same on all models maby my age though
road tax is £20 on all of them (or at least was last time I had one)
100 is more refined due to better gearbox and hydraulic...
ive never owned a 197, but have owned a cup chassis 200. I went ph2 172 > ph1 172 > 200 > ph2 172.
I swapped back down to a 172 to save cash, the 200 was obviously the much better car, it was better built with no rattles although it was brand new of course!, it felt much more refined which took...
my 172 cost me £1000 to buy, ive spent £2500 on it in 6 months, previous owner probably spent £1200 on it in 6 months.
depends how picky you are and what you consider a money pit lol
its a 52 plate on 100k
RB320 is the headgasket that fails isn't it due to turbo being too close/hot for it!?
back on topic, as much as I blew a clio 200 engine up, they generally are reliable my 2nd engine was a cracker!
ok then another while im at it!!! this was when I was 17 and worked 2 days a week so could spent the other 5 polishing my car, never had a machine polisher back then either all done by hand!
if your worried about power loss (as I would) with a patern part one id be going k-tec sports cat
however id be tempted to just get a 2nd hand one from ebay or here first as its not a massive common area to fail
have to agree there I nearly sold my first 172 as I just didn't get on with it at all and didn't see what the big deal was with them, I had no confidence in it at speed limits never mind faster and then it failed its first mot on a leaking rear shock! the new pair transformed it into the car the...
its definitely worth doing if the engines coming out for something, I fitted my last one by removing the subframe as said above and its a pain in the arse but imo was still worth the hastle, I gained mid range torque and peak bhp, although that was fitted in conjunction with a ktec Decat/link...
I cant believe some people buy a performance n/a car and don't use the engine the way it was intended, my 172 feels sluggish on a spirited drive unless im using the FULL rev range, my 200 was even worse, they REALLY need revved!
i cant remember exactly but im sure its about 7400rpm, its a good bit higher than a 172 shift light!
if you've only taken it to 6000rpm then you havn't felt the car really pull they go mental the last 1000rpm
looking good big stuff, I remember boosting down a backroad in my mates fiat uno turbo sitting on an oil drum as it had no seats and every time I pressed the clutch I nearly fell off it!