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Less understeer?!!! I can see the tail happy bit - Certainly the ph1 172 might be described as being more fun due to being softer. Maybe a bit more adjustable as a result (I have no idea about that because I didn't push them that hard, and I'm an average driver lol) I'd bet that a 182 Cup/Cup...

FLOL. I've heard it all tbh.

182 Cup/Cup pack handle much better than the ph1 out the box. Better to look at inside and out. No brainer imho The whole 'power' thing is entirely moot imho. It's totally luck of the draw whether or not you get a good engine, not which model you buy imho. Ultimately depends what you look...

It'll be better than the 197. And even if it's not, it'll be reported as such ;)

Top job! Love the little 'sight glass' too!

No one benefits from a slik lined coffin! You can't take it with you etc etc Very true!

I tried in vain to get my Mrs round to the idea of a diesel when I bought her mk3 a few years back. The 1.4 16v she had was utter toss tbh. If that had 100 horses, they were more like 100 shetland ponies!

After all this time your still completely defensive lol In fact all ph1 owners seem to have a complex tbh.

Awesome! Lucky Boy! :approve: And don't you f**king dare touch the wheels! That's what little boys do to Clios!

MINI Cooper. No pictures of her car, but it's 100% identical to this one. More or less full loaded. I paid over the odds a little, but it's like a new car. Nov 04 registered and 22k miles. Heated front screen, auto dimming mirror, chrome pack, half leather, CD changer, AC, DSC+T etc etc...

The downgrade business is mostly spouted by ph1 drivers who couldn't afford a ph2.

That was probably robin you of a few horses tbh I'll get me coat.:o

Ouch @ the ph2 172 with 157.2! Talk about bad ones and good ones lol!

lol! Subway army!

There's plenty on here that must have the latest thing! They'll be one or two chopping in 197's for these I have no doubt. Missed that. Ta!

Subway. We need more of you. Doesn't look any different to any other pictures of ph1's I've seen. Like a dumb frog.

Not reading 25 pages... but has anyone actually ordered one of these?

A week? Ummm £10? Dunno. Don't keep tabs tbh. Do so few miles it's not an issue.

The ride in the the Trophy is FIRM lol

They should be cheaper because of the colour, not more expensive! :rasp:;)

ON the speedo maybe.. ;) But not in reality. They're 'only' geared for 144 iirc!!

My missus' MINI Cooper has the 'S' 17"'a and the sports handling pack to go with it.... and the ride is FAR worse than my 172 on Eibach Pros. Very harsh at low speeds. No idea between the 172 Cup and the 182 with Cup packs, but can't imagine there's a great deal of difference.... the 172 Cup...

Like that!

Cheers dude. Carling. "You know who your mates are". This was taken way before that in 2003. And although I work for the brewery that makes Carling, I can't take any credit for the advert lol

Well i've never warmed to the looks of the mk3.... but this look like it has potential. Let's just hope they don't make it any f**king heavier!!!

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: I knew a bit of moral support would work! lol

Use a lighter to soften the plastic cage. Then it'll fly out ;)

I take it you don't do a manual job for a living? lol :rasp:

Maxogen = Win. Very fancy bracket with yours too!

He said he rang him "a while back"....... I just put myself in his position. Would I come on here bleating about it or would I ring him up and demand an explaination?