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Raced a TT 225BHP in the cup - he wernt going nowhere! Lancer in a nother league - its 0-100 u ask about for those beasts not 0-60!

Towser Im sure ur final decsion on buying a new V6 isnt gonna rest with whether it fits in the Garage or not?? Geeezzzz surely u could leave it outon the road? Im sure a smart car would fit though if your desperate!

teady172 ...if the Mk2 has been tested to 6.6 then my theory holds - the Cup is obviously quicker than the 172 as standard out of the factory so that means then the cup will be hitting quicker times than the Mk2? Yes? - its common sense man - whatever the standard 172 does the cup does it...

Anyone made one yet - Prima/K-Tec? How much - really only want the quarter panels !

The super1600 is actually a restricted 2 lite engine! CCC mag done a report on it in November with the Cup road test and an article on how to make the RSport Spider better! Want that kit for the my 1600!

I had a change to buy a left hand drive gun metal grey coloured one - it was the 1.6 turbo! Lovely motor - classic look on a par with the MK2 Golf - timeless!

Cup is 10% lighter therefore it stands to reason it is 10 % quicker - which it is 0-60 = 7.2 (172) 10% = approx 0.7 secs 7.2 - 0.7 = amazing 6.5 !!!! Simple maths peeps another 10% of weight = 6 secs to sixty eventually ull hit 60 in 0.7 secs if u keep removing weight - prove me wrong!

Weight is 935Kg Well that mine anyway with a full tank (interor trim and rear bench etc removed - awaitng my R-Sport race seats and cage in new year to relieve even more weight!

Auto car/ EVO/ CCC tested 6.5 to 62 and 16.9 to 100 pretty much spot on though! Shouldnt be hard to get it down to 6 dead..........;)

From Renault UK press release.... "The clio Cup 172 will be part of the clio range for one year from release" So there - itll be a whole lot more limited than a standard 172 - ye ha!!!! BTW that means you have until July 2003 to get one but if and thats a big if they do another 500 in the...

Cup is 10% lighter therefore it stands to reason it is 10 % quicker - which it is 0-60 = 7.2 (172) 10% = approx 0.7 secs 7.2 - 0.7 = amazing 6.5 !!!! Simple maths peeps another 10% of weight = 6 secs to sixty eventually ull hit 60 in 0.7 secs if u keep removing weight - prove me wrong!

Weight is 935Kg Well that mine anyway with a full tank (interor trim and rear bench etc removed - awaitng my R-Sport race seats and cage in new year to relieve even more weight!

Auto car/ EVO/ CCC tested 6.5 to 62 and 16.9 to 100 pretty much spot on though! Shouldnt be hard to get it down to 6 dead..........;)

From Renault UK press release.... "The clio Cup 172 will be part of the clio range for one year from release" So there - itll be a whole lot more limited than a standard 172 - ye ha!!!! BTW that means you have until July 2003 to get one but if and thats a big if they do another 500 in the...

Do I get no mention then? Anything....................? Oh come on....................WHAT?

I agree with TB1 but OK ABS is obviouly not a bad thing - its just a few of us have learned to alter or improve so to speak are driving skill/ability in order to live with out it and/or rely on it when circumstances arise.

Do I get no mention then? Anything....................? Oh come on....................WHAT?

I agree with TB1 but OK ABS is obviouly not a bad thing - its just a few of us have learned to alter or improve so to speak are driving skill/ability in order to live with out it and/or rely on it when circumstances arise.

Insurance maybe? Fuel Economy, personal taste? M3 is not cool remember!

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More pointless remarks! Thought i was having a joke - what are the chances..............

No need to take any offense - non meant - its just a discussion remember but in the wend of the day I have faith inmy own ability to stop my car under all circumstances unless of course a car piles into the side of me or an accisdent happens due to the other drivers muck up! It doesnt matter...

Rob - without meaning to offend - I dont have an ego just many years of driving experience without a single scratch! And yes I hammer on most of the time! You drive a 1200 probably with limited driving experience (what age are you!) I drive a Cup and know exactly how they handle in the wet so if...

Insurance maybe? Fuel Economy, personal taste? M3 is not cool remember!

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All pants - depends how good u are at braking really and u should never have to emergency stop if ur sticking to the speed limits and keeping proper safe driving distances - is everyone on here scared to drive a car with no ABS (lack of confidence and driving ability me thinks) There is no deer...

Any article Ive read so far including CCC and Evo have rated the Cup as an absolutly amazing track car - quicker than some of the bigger Jap cars! I belive them! i do, I really really do - honest I do!

Oh and I spilt half of the popcorn on the floor! Dohhhhh

How can you define "ever" ??? Ever hasnt happened yet???

NNnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooo.................... Please no more this vs that...........aaarrggggghhhhhh , as they used to say in the action man comics (in a little bubble) When ever someone died it was always "aaarrgggghhhhhhhhh"