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another thing no one has mentioned the more you spend apart from reliability and durability (obviously a fat sound) is the weight of the thing. i.e ktecs full system for the 182 is 8kgs lighter !!! a worthy saving when you are going for a stripped effect for best power to weight certainly close...

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they look a bit old now though. the 172 is heading into classic car territory when the new model comes out, it will always be cool me thinks where as pugs well there 10,00000000000000 a shilling.

what ?

also do you need recliners in order to get people in the back of the clio or can you move the chair further forward than OEM seats so people can clamber in th back ?? thing is buckets are like 8kg each ! but the lightest recliner (resonably price that is) i can find is 14-15kgs.

can anyone tell me the weight of the 172 cup (without airbags obviously) need to know as it will influence my choice of recliner. thanks. --phill-- [Edited by meggerman on 29 August 2005 at 1:58pm]

B.. ollocks i said it first you silly man :p

bowler wildcat

go to bed

why cant people just accept the civic is a nice little car but the mucielargo i drove on saturday puts them all to shame 600+ bhp monster 6.0 V12 makes this argument seem daft like 0-100 in 16.8 vs 17.2 or something it would be pertinent to contrast a 0-100 in 10.67 secs like a WR1 does thats a...

nah it was 140 and i only did 90

cheers mate. i suspect the unsprung weight of 6-7kg 15" wheels will improve accelaration. personally i love the car low like that it will look the nuts m8 when you get H&R on.

or a japanoid in the Evo

well isnt that just picking on someone else, id say thumbs up for being part of something and being unique something that cant be said for CTRs im affraid, there ten a penny and dull and a dull thing in dulls ville. cant everyone just do hat they fekin like to their cars it wont be long befoer...

before : http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/ht53pyx/newfolder114.jpg after: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/meggerman/newfolder113.jpg looks better even lower than the top pic, how low is the first one just out of interest ?

true. power to weight is oftern forgoten by many. however up top a car with lots more power will pull but who gives a fart when corners are where its at and who gives a sh*t anyway as long as you enjoy your motors and they bring a smile to your face, if i didnt belive in that i would drive a...

actually it does. if you cant use the grip for fear of physically losing your life for the rest of eternity id say that knowing what your front and rear wheels are upto is most important. can i just say for the record although technically exellent every japanese made car i have driven have...

what are 15s like compared with 16s ??

so i can imagine il have a saxo low look on 15s when slammed (god that was a very chav sentance but you get the point). i just remember everycar i have driven with large wheels seems to turn slower and accelarate slower they have grip to a point but seem not to tell you when its gone is this...

ok so the 172 and 182 run 16" wheels is this for a reason ? i mean i can get some team dynamic Prorace 1s in 15 x 7 so they are as wide but 1 inch small diameter will this lose outright grip or would it improve handling on a cup ? i would obviously complement with H&R coilovers for a really low...

cheers i will (if i get a cup which im contemplating right now) thanks

does the 172 cup come with the cup badge at the back ? http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/nique-windrunner/DSC01538.jpg or is this an aftermarket addon ? if so where can i get one from cheers

the 182cup is the best of both worlds

thats the beauty of it people think its a sporty version of shopping trolley and then get passed by in their v6/v8 luxo barges in 182 hp of lightness

nah i disagree but each to their own, theres better suspension, lighter wheels and a heafty weight advantage.. sure you could get a good 172 (like me) but if you have a good CUP with all those advantages it would be faster IMO.

an average adult males weighs 70kgs (12 stone) the 172 MKII is 1110kgs the cup is 1040kgs so do the math and the weight difference is equivelent to one male freind in the passenger seat. the car specs on cliosport main page of a weighbridge test on a 172 was 1120kg with a full tank of...

3.9 on my dads kawasaki ninja 650cc with exhaust

ok looking on the trader at 172 cups.. both advertisements for silver 172 cups claim ABS and aircon i know it has aircon but does the silver 172 have ABS ?