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If the group buy goes ahead, then I think they should match the best price available on the net, or beat it. These are available for £28 delivered from ebay in the usa. I bought one and didnt pay a penny more.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2004-K-Tec-Racing-Renault-Clio-182-Sport_W0QQitemZ290035066457QQihZ019QQcategoryZ9861QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem This is uber dodgy.

Porter Cable polisher.:D

May have been Riz.

I got a cheap sponge from asda and some scaffold tube....

Come on, I am interested as much as Fred, I was hoping for a heated discussion, so I could learn more about the mysterys of wild cams. I would be very interested in why you think fitting them wrong would cause them to tap.

I've been reading through that. But he makes it seem too simple, plus I bet Ben does alot of prep work before hand.

that wont help, i dont think. Need to find the siren and disconnect it, or just leave it on and it will stop after a while. You probably know this though.

Any guides worth looking at?

do you wait a couple of seconds before opening doors?

how hard is it to fit these myself?

thats the word! so what is the max duration allowable on this engine, or optimum for power?

Not in a hurry to do this, just gonna keep my eyes open, and see what comes along.:D Have been reading up on how they work. What is the overlap time thingy called, has it got a special name, so i can check specs of certain cams, or is the info not generally available? What sort of price would...

Yep, i remember you saying that piper ones tick too loudly.lol. Is it safe to buy second hand if I get a decent make? And i think 200bhp, was a bit optimistic. just had a search and 197 seems to be a standard figure, now that is strange.....

Really, I have a silver 172 BG53....

When you get one let me know.....;)

2nd picture looks mean reminds me of the exige. But the wheels need to be black in that picture.

Make them cut the price in half! I get 200 mins and 500 texts for 15 a month with o2, used to be 30 a month.

It's because the 197 is soooo expensive and it doesnt have the same raw thrill of the bone shakers we have.

Looking to get into 200bhp territory, looked into throttle bodies, but cant justify cost, for a relatively small gain for the price. Plus it would cost big money for me to keep cruise control. I am after a good set of cams, and wondering if it best to get second hand ones, then get the experts...

I dont see the point in replacing crap with crap, fair enough having a sub to fill in the bottom end, but if you are looking for better speakers, I would have just spent the 60 on a good set of components.....

yep, you must renew every year for £5.

I have a cg-lock , so I dont slide anywhere, I tried it without it the other day, and you just cant chuck the car around, as you do end up in the passenger seat.

Just watched roamers old car again, sounds the bollox, I want throttle bodies.

get ferodo ds2500

They are gone now.

Looks ok, i prefer the standard 172 ones.

Dare i ask how much?:quiet:

This does the trick most of the time. Or go for different pads,with standard discs, i recommend ferodo ds2500

:D the paint job on that grill was bad, very bad.