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People underestimate the Fabia's, as they look pretty ordinary and upright. Good cars though. Oddly I could never get comfortable in the drivers seat, kept getting cramp.

The 172's a much better drivers car, but straight line pace there's bugger all in it.

If you're reading this, you're only encouraging me.

Not planning ring trips?

You're slipping. It's all the torques and seats.

Pretty sure it's woopsie doo. Sorry xx

Not sure if you've considered it, but I wouldn't rule out a late, well looked after 172. Same shape, exhaust is cheaper when it breaks, and you've more options than a cup packed 182 if you're ever thinking of coilovers. Wish I'd never sold my 1st 172 for the 182 tbh.

Exactly, no-one knows your needs, it's all assumption. £33k on a Mini? People are stupid.

Playing devils advocate, most would assume that if a 182 is big enough, a 370z, used M3 etc woud also be.

£16k? I'd be up there today.

The men who stare at bricks would have been s**t tbh.

Is the steering that different in a 200 compared to a 197? Because the MCS I've driven has vastly better steering than the 197. Edit: Did you press the sport button?

Your. Sorry xx

Nature of every forum I'm on tbh. Otherwise the detailers would be the only one's posting. About cleaning wheels with a toothbrush.:dead: With pics:dead::dead:

Anyway, hope to see a 500 on the road, doubt there will many meaner looking cars about!

Massively, the clio chassis was released in 2000? Same sort of discussion as when that gen of hatch was released. Yes they were more capable than cars before. But to become more capable, they got heavier. And no matter how many toys you throw at a car, you lose something when you add weight...

Too late, that's the cut/paste Vee owners argument. :rasp:

And the weight! It's an immense car, hugely capable. But much like Evo's/Impreaza's, despite being ridiculously capable, they aren't special for me. I'd rather go slower in an Elise.

I don't think it is. Something like the Vee was unique. Mid-engined, hatchback. Crazy. The FRS is a powerful, FWD, hatch with LSD. Few of those about, the FRS is merely the most powerful/well equipped one about.

GW 200's look like american reg cars from the 70's/80's. Take a decent car, then shove a wacking great big black plastic bumper on.

There's only so special a FWD hatchback can be (imo). I'm no Vee fan (don't like the way they drive, not that quick, thirsty etc). But it's a special car, no doubt, unique.

At least yours will get proper usage Roy. Too many Ford geeks that seem to think a Ford is Ferrari-special because of 2 initials on the boot. Almost as bad as Vee owners lol.

I've seen a few in GW, imo it looks awful. And it won't age well.

Nearly backfired. The tow hook broke, and the f**king thing nearly rolled straight into freds place. Through the locked shutter.

I tend to use the setup fred suggested, pretty much as hard as possible on the rear, softer on the front. (and before a certain someone gets his knickers in a twist, give a f**k that you don't like the use of hard and soft terminology. Gets the point across. )

I may have nursed my car onto the road when my clutch went at Bedford, and got a free tow to freds. Possibly. Buy cover, leave it a week, break down. Done.

Afaik it's not supported on the iPhone. Best bet is to use speaker phone and an outside recorder.

You fitted them and did the original setup?

Yep, cable is a bit jumpy at low revs. But then the FBW was always a bit funny when pulling away, always seem to need more revs than expected.

Good stuff. Still using that Alpine HU I bought off you fella! Welcome to a shot in my track prepped ph1 if you need inspiration;).