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i think i can see the driveshaft popping out ;)

Just down to luck. Other than conumables, never had a problem with any of the 5 I've owned.

I don't think they are s**t, anything but. But you can't say they are great handlers! Whenever someone criticises a car on here, it goes like this. -You haven't driven one -Oh, you have? Then you haven't driven it enough! -Oh, you have driven it enough? Well you haven't owned one, you can't...

Always wanted one, so read everything I could about them. Then I borrowed one, still love them, but I'll never own one.

Don't forget when renault sent the car to Porsche, they actually reduced the steering speed to stop it's natural tendency to fall into roll oversteer. Thats why the ph1 has better turn in.

Fank ya!

This place gets funnier evey day. A Vee is now better handling than the 1*2's? So pretty much every motoring journalist (who praise the car for it's epic lunacy) are wrong? FFS it weighs a lot, the engine's heavy and mounted too high, and it's a short wheelbase mid-engined car. Not exactly the...

But you're the most biased person on here! It has a big heavy engine, mounted high, in the centre of a relatively short chassis, a car that lotus refused to consult on the handling, as it couldn't be made to work! Standard Vee, vs standard 172, wet back road. The Vee would get dropped.

Was a ph1 Vee. Thankfully none are left now, they all span into bushes and exploded.

Easily the best car on here.

I'd disagree. They aren't significantly more expensive to run than a lot of hatchbacks, 35mpg.

Evo. The Vee and the 172 were closely matched, the cup was quicker. It was a ph1 vee, ph2 172, and 172cup. I may have it at home, if I can find it I'll scan it and email it too you.

Why? You hate the 172:rasp:

Be interested, but only with fitting.

Nicely done! Assuming you met Harris? Decent lad, had a little blat with him in his 205 when I had my 182. Showed me what genuine talent can do.

5. 03 Iceburg 172 05 RB 182cup 53 Monaco 172 55 Trophy X-reg Flamer 172 ph1

The 172 engine's torque drops off fairly quickly at high revs, more noticeable after a remap.

Shouldn't affect it if the cat's still in place. Many people on here have had remaps, if it was causing MOT issues we would of heard. Decat's a completely different issue.

Any more pics of the Trophy? I didn't get many decent ones when I had her,

20-30mm-ish. They are good. How many miles have you covered on the original dampers?

I've had sportlines, prolines, apex. Apex are awful. Sportlines give a firmer ride than standard, but not terrible. Prolines are fantastic, but don't lower a 172/182 by much.

Bottom pic is my old car! Glad to see he's treating her well.

I'm gonna come and see you once you've had the dampers done, be good to see the difference.

Curtis does lots of race work, time-attack, etc. Been taken abroad for races by AST, they are much bigger in the states than over here. Plus he's done the suspension on all the litchfield car (IIRC)

My set-ups quite different to when you rode in it fella, the ride's now better than a 182 on sportlines.

Have a search for stephen ireland's range rover. Your head may burst.

There's an insurance place near big johns, opposite the post office. Has a 4200 (last I saw).

Too fast, too furious me thinks. The Maserati thats parks at the insurance brokers makes up for it though!

Seen it there a lot.

Looks good. Be better off with a decent wrap, will protect the paint beneath, and will be easier to sell on. (Surprised you haven't done the diamond red!)