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I managed to wiggle it out in the end. What do you guys use to get the gasket off the block? its pretty well on there, and it says in the f4r manual not to scratch the surface.

do u remove the timing covers? crank pulley?. I've undone the bolt that bolts the timing cover to the pump.

I've got the pulley off, its all loose but I cant seem to get it out between the pump and wing.

Anyone give me any pointers? I've got the engine as low as it will go and I've undone the pulley but I just can't seem to get it the pulley out between the engine and wing. I've also taken the alternator and pas pump off.

i'll have some of that!

lol and there was you saying you didn't like loud exhausts the first time i met you. Got my pas pump off and got a new one coming tomorrow so that should sort it. Don't need a flame kit lol the overrun map gives you flames. I seriously think we should do a tunnel run! The only tunnels worth...

I've found a place that does cheap pas pumps http://www.acspowersteering.co.uk/renault-clio-power-steering-pump-20-0005-p-641.html £53! thats half the price of other quotes i've had. Am I missing something here?.

:slap: See how long I can hack it this time eh.

You could say that lol. I just done a cambelt/aux belt and dephaser change. That didn't cure the rattle, although the dephaser was noisy anyway. So took another look and found its the pas pump so I'll be doing that as soon as I can get hold of a pump. I did remove the decat and sell it but now...

I thought as much. Glad its nothing more serious tbh.

I think I've finally found the cause of my rattle/grindy noise. Wipped the Aux belt off after work today, to check over all the pulleys as I was sure the noise was coming from that area. My PAS pump sounds shot, I presume they shouldn't sound like this and there's slight in and out movement...

Can anyone confirm that the common whine clios have when starting up from cold that dissapears after 30 seconds or so is from the PAS pump?. I'm still trying to find the cause of my dodgy rattle/grindy sound. Since this has started, my car stopped whining from cold starts. So if its the pas...

I've completed the work now. Took me two full days. I was on it from 7.30am untill about 5ish on Saturday and another full day Sunday. All I can say is don't attempt it unless you have some fairly decent mechanical knowledge/experience. Its not very easy mainly due to access, and takes a lot...

Neither did I tbh.

Trouble Dave?.

Hence why I said when I've finished with them :rasp: I'll probably keep them the whole time I own a Clio.

Oh and thats not forgetting that I can sell my timing tools on when I've finished with them. Their worth 100 quid easy.

I don't really know to be honest. Rentech my local specialist have the following prices.. for cambelt change with gen cambelt kit and full aux belt kit is £580 thats without dephaser (dephaser is another 170ish) + the 12k service which is another 160 quid.

Well it was 1k away from a service anyway, so I thought I'd do it all in one hit. Plus my dephaser was shagged, so its best to replace the oil anyway so I've been told.

Too much haha. Too late for a guide matey, I'm well over halfway through doing it now. There is a guide on how to do it in the guides section on here. Its helped me alot. I don't think its that bad a job, bit fiddly in places but not bad. The only thing I lost a lot of time on was the exhaust...

I thought so, I pushed them in so they were pretty flush. Thought I'd check though.

Should the camshaft oil seals on the timing side be pushed right back or flush with the surface of the head?.

i managed to fit it on the end, i must of wasted an hour atleast on that damn bolt. I ended up wedging wood down the back of the engine against the bulkhead to take away the movement when i was trying to crack it off.

I can get a ratchet and socket on it, but just cant get enough pressure on that. my breaker bar is just too big, i think i need one of them tools which has a half inch drive on it and you put an extension bar through it and use it as a bar.

i'm in the process of doing dephaser and timing belt but i'm really struggling with the exhaust pulley nut, i can't got it undone, and there's not enoug room to get my breaker bar on it! Any tips please?

Cool, thanks. I should imagine renault carry elf oils since they recommend them on their vehicles. If all else fails though I'll get this total stuff.

Yeah I need a 5 litre bottle though!. I'll have to ring them in the morning.

I've just noticed I've ordered the wrong oil! I've got 5 litres of 5w30 doh!. Do Renault dealers carry Elf Evolution 5w40? or do they have to order it in?.

Thanks for clearing that up. My torque wrench is in ftlb!. So I've had to convert them all but I think I'm all set. I'm going to be using all the torque settings specified in that manual so I hope theres no more errors! :dead:

Can anybody confirm the torque and angle setting for the crankshaft pulley bolt?. In the F4R 730 manual it says 2 daN.m + 135 degrees +/- 15 degrees and then later on in the manual when its showing you how to set the timing it says to do it up to 2 daN.m + 115 degrees +/- 15 degrees...