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For me a city car is a smart or a twingo or lupo etc A super mini would be a clio with its rivals the 206, saxo/c2, micra,fiesta, ibiza etc after that yor talkin focus, megane,leon, golf, civic, yep i class the civic as a bigger car gets my back up tho when the 172/182 are compared to the...

Ive had to have the AA out a total of 4 times in 3000 miles!!! 3 times with the same problem!!

could be totally dif but my exs car had similar probs an it was summat to do with compression loss in 1 of the cylinders! prob nothin of the sort but thort id post it anyway!

Never had rattles, mind its never really bin on the road long enuff for me to notice!!!

thinks its every 2-3K mate. you can get a cleanin kit from demon tweeks etc.

Not heard of the mini williams but i have bin told of a 2 litre 180 break engine an a 1.6 turbo are bin tested.

Nothin but excuses!!!

Or lack of it!! I was aware of the bad build quality of the 172s when i bought mine in october however i worked out today that my car has spent 1 day back at the dealers for every 300 miles its bin driven!! If thats not sh*te i dont know what is!!

Yeh im thinkin same! 1 owner 172 with just 3158 miles, new electrics an engine out since new!!! i reckon id get bout 10K maybe a bit more!

put my name down assumin Renault can get my car to do another 3000 miles without havin to fix the engine or the electrics again!!

yeah cheers rhys.

really dont know where to go from here, suppose ill have to see wot lambs say 2moz!

yeah an its only done 3k miles an bin in for repair for a total of 10days before today!! sorry to hear bout the damage to yours lagerlout1.

Yeah, but ive lost confidence in it now! When i got it the alarm an immob. were faulty an the window seal damaged an now this!!

no an its not the first probs ive had either!! really really pissed off at the moment!!

Think my clio 172 with 3158 miles on is dead!! I had to be picked up today by the AA, there all know me now, cos the engine gave up! i was on my way to the NW meet and i lost all power and white smoke started billowing from the rear! Not nice!! there was oil all in the air intake and the air...

think we should see what the response to the initial letters are first! but if you wanna do it why not, cant hurt.

Ring renault insurance and ask them to send you your proof of no claims. Some companies accept your renewal as this normally has you NCB on.

The idea is to copy an paste the above letter with your address etc and we will all aend individual letters, If Renault take no notice i will attempt to write a letter containing the names etc of all those who have put there names down, as you can imagine this would be a huge job as nearly...

Jas has given the ok to use the second letter which mentions cliosport. im just gonna find the address of renault cs

Sorry to see that mate. I had a bad smash on wed in the ice too! doubt it will be written off. i did the same thing in 2000 with my last clio! new front bumper,wings an bonnet!

Slightly modified to include Cliosport. Dear sirs, I am writing to you in query of a fault I have on my Renault Clio 172 The fault is as follows, under hard acceleration which causes wheel spin it would appear the engine bangs against the sub frame of the car and some cases has been...

Not sure whether to involve cliosport or not. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

How about this for an individual letter?? it can be modified to suit your model. Dear sirs, I am writing to you in query of a fault I have on my Renault Clio 172. The fault is as follows, under hard acceleration which causes wheel spin it would appear the engine bangs against...

yeah i got mine from scott a few weeks ago an i love em! http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1074329557__P1170001.jpghttp://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1074329557__P1170001.jpg

This only took me 2 mins but...... Dear sirs, I am writing to you in query of a fault found by a number of clio owners and members of ClioSport.net. The fault is as follows, under hard acceleration which causes wheel spin it would appear the engine bangs against the sub frame of...

There are cases in mk1s tho cos i think rhyss does it! Trouble is they will say that all individuals should take there car to a dealer for inspection! Is the letter to come from the club or individuals?? assume thats Jass call! i will try writing a letter an post it in a while!

nope cos shell sell optimax! lol