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I never get into a car and think ahhh its got ABS. It is hardly ever activated, but only is when a "suprising event" (e.g. a deer jumps out or a car swerves into your path etc) occurs. My reactions would be in these instii(?) are to stomp on the brakes and ABS would come alive and save me, but...

Never mind V6 owners, check out this Clio! arrrg! http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/nonexotics/other358.jpg arrrrg!

oh no! mustve been expensive! I seen that website before - have you seen the Jag XJ220 thats wrapped around a lamp post? Its worse than rotten!!

I guess thats what happens when you run too much boost when youre trying to negotiate your front driveway.

Never mind V6 owners, check out this Clio! arrrg! http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/nonexotics/other358.jpg arrrrg!

oh no! mustve been expensive! I seen that website before - have you seen the Jag XJ220 thats wrapped around a lamp post? Its worse than rotten!!

he/she was probably drunk. Sorry to hear your bad luck. Merry Christmas :(

weol, as a student - thats all i can afford in terms of mods. I spose there havent been many people in here whove really tuned their 172s yet. N/A tuning? didnt you guys realise that with the group N ecu it greats a venturi hurricane effect in front of the throttle body forcing air/fuel into...

he/she was probably drunk. Sorry to hear your bad luck. Merry Christmas :(

weol, as a student - thats all i can afford in terms of mods. I spose there havent been many people in here whove really tuned their 172s yet. N/A tuning? didnt you guys realise that with the group N ecu it greats a venturi hurricane effect in front of the throttle body forcing air/fuel into...

hey, that chip gives you +50 bhp you know! its still for sale by the way....:oops:

As someone put it on here before: 40% driver 60% car or is it the other way around? Its all down to how badly you punish your car on a 1/4 mile drag race anyway. I was really literally obliterating my car yesterday racing a modded 3-series BMW (white leather interior) maybe a 328 or...

hey, that chip gives you +50 bhp you know! its still for sale by the way....:oops:

As someone put it on here before: 40% driver 60% car or is it the other way around? Its all down to how badly you punish your car on a 1/4 mile drag race anyway. I was really literally obliterating my car yesterday racing a modded 3-series BMW (white leather interior) maybe a 328 or...

It certainly would be cool. Id have to make sure they gave a warranty and made it very reliable......

I thought the 0-100 of the mk.1 172s were 18.3 when they first came out - now i see 17.9s?

Impressive times. I wonder how the mk.1 172s would fair against them....?

Hahahaha....very good! 5 172s eh? now that youve sleighed (spot the christmas pun) a fair few of them, can you make it your new years resolution to announce your car to the Cliosport forum? - or have you already and have i missed it like a big twit?

I thought the 0-100 of the mk.1 172s were 18.3 when they first came out - now i see 17.9s?

Impressive times. I wonder how the mk.1 172s would fair against them....?

Hahahaha....very good! 5 172s eh? now that youve sleighed (spot the christmas pun) a fair few of them, can you make it your new years resolution to announce your car to the Cliosport forum? - or have you already and have i missed it like a big twit?

A turbo 4x4 172 would be nice. Not sure what the chassis would do/cope tho?

If i had the money then maybe. I think if it had any more power than 250 bhp itl become a real handful around the twisties, youd have to train that right foot of yours! prepare to make friends with Mr. Chessington..... The ultimate stealth mobile tho! nice.

yeah a group toast session would be good. All with differing mileage, from new to 40k or something.

yeah a group toast session would be good. All with differing mileage, from new to 40k or something.

Martin - i see what youre saying. I would love a high-powered tunable rear wheel drive jap monster at some point in my life and will probably buy one. Its interesting reading what youve written and it puts things into a realistic perspective. I aggree with you about the handling issues...

Martin - i see what youre saying. I would love a high-powered tunable rear wheel drive jap monster at some point in my life and will probably buy one. Its interesting reading what youve written and it puts things into a realistic perspective. I aggree with you about the handling issues...

Yeah they are pretty fast. Very light-weight cars which makes them nippy. I think theyre around 800 kg arent they? so 120 bhp means a lot more than in say a vts for example.

Yeah they are pretty fast. Very light-weight cars which makes them nippy. I think theyre around 800 kg arent they? so 120 bhp means a lot more than in say a vts for example.

Id like to race one too. Also like to compare. It should be pretty close whatever the out come - if yours can beat mine, you can beat a standard pulsar........ How much does the Willy weigh? do the different versions differ in weight? could that be due to the performance differences? perhaps...