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in theory a 4-1 gives more top end power than a 4-2-1 yes but i felt no decrease in top end power and a big gain of mid range torque which is what you need for a fast road car (which is what i use mine for) down a backroad it was much better to drive you could just leave it in 3rd instead of 2nd...

as usual haha but lets remeber ive got everything he mentioned above and fitted them ;) but as said if you can fit the manifold yourself then go for it if you can get one cheapish i wouldnt be paying to have one fitted or buying a new one! being bloddy honest nothings worth it, leave them...

deffo worth it.

lol it was built by the guy screaming high 5 in the video!!

the only problem is how much is a set off injectors going to cost and i thought they needed coded to the car how would this word on the clio?

ill be keeping an eye on this thread mate good work i love a conversion!! no 1 on here will ever like the skirts wheels or bumpers, infact i dont either but if thats what you like then good on ya! hell of a drive to pick up that bumper hehe!

reving a car to 4k revs is not going to do it any harm. not sure what ecu its running i just know he paid 1k to have the new ecu fitted, safe maped and then a remap when he gets the time

whys that not got fogs as standard? crash repair job before you bought it?

sparks coming from the exhaust are loose bits of the weld from the inside burning off was fine after 5 mins running. yes they do need properly mapped infact i beleive there is only one company in the uk that is worth getting them mapped by? thats why its just had a 1k ecu install and map done...

on non aircon cars i used to curse when the battery side blew because it had less room, then i tried the drivers side on a 172 with aircon lol sore hands after it!

my mates old 1400 8v saxo used to pop flames when decated lol was cool!

im trying to decide if i like that splitter or not! i think it looks awesome in some pics and not in others! front bumper looks awesome just needs fog lights fitted (assuming u smashed them too?)

its never going to pop flames like the ITB cars do unless you get it mapped to spit fire!!! but i cant see why it wont pop a flame like mine did yesterday with a decat, but its only done it once so wouldnt say its worth spending money on a decat for that alone! lol

why skimp on probably the next most important thing after tyres for keeping you on the road? lol OEM quality standard ones will be cheapest but if your looking for aftermarket check out apex or gmax

lol good stuff was that just a decated cat back too?

do you mean hit the limiter in 5th or flame? lol

my mate got a powerflow on his old 172 (was from motorsport world - loads of us got systems from them when they used to do the old zaust exhausts before they used powerflow and they were brilliant!!) wasnt 2.5" rusted to f**k, tailpipe went brown with rust! lol

it is haha

anyone ever heard of a standard ecu 172 doing this? it was poping flames when i lifted off on the limiter in 5th yesterday? standard cams and TB 182 manifold, decat and k-tec stealth!

I would be very interested in finding out if you can use the C3 injectors on them too as it would allow me to run silly power! im only going to spend money on mine if i can get a really good gain, not interested in under 120bhp and 200lb/ft lol

lol well i can assure you it was being reved to about 4k but you would know better since it was you pressing the accelerator wouldnt you?

lol wheres the abuse coming from?

i think mine on dci is about to go haha when you pull the catch inside the car you dont even need to touch the catch when opening the bonnet u just lift it, its rusted to f**k!!

minter looks better than mine haha

nope its the overrun from the map/new ecu if you listen ull hear its only getting reved to about 4k max

its no where near the limiter its beeping because the coolant temperature sensor has failed. erm i cant quite remeber the manufacturer but i beleive its some sort of factory optional kit of some sort, AB Flung or AB Flug or something?

yes they can be fitted but never done it so i cant tell you how lol!

pmsl yeah we were a bit excited at our new exhaust haha!!!! plus it took us about half an hour to get the b*****d thing started as its been lying for 6 months lol

thats brilliant how high its reving! what injectors is it running standard dci80 ones?

the wing is a factory wing with the ajustable bit removed as its having a carbon fibre one made up i cant see how its being abused?!