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in what aspect do you mean the williams has achieved nothing bud? it was a very good rally car,it won its class back when iot was used, very good road car, yes bland,boring on the face of it, but very good to drive, iv never found a williams to understeer, well actually if you drive it like...

cheers guys and laura :)

i think we have finally come to what we all knew anyway, its down to personal preference, some of us wouldnt buy another clio, some wouldnt buy anything else other than one, some of us prefere rwd, some prefere fwd, but what it all boils down to is my cars better :rasp:

Ok bud i can see your a rear drive guy at heart, and i cansee your point about the cos and m3 as they are both amazing cars, the only point i could bring in there to the discussion would be these cars are more what i would call sports cars as apposed to hot hatches, i couldnt really compare...

very good point mate but i have to disagree with the above statement, yes the car wasnt meant to be a pure performance car but just because it was loosely based on a 'shopping car' doesnt not make it any less of a sporty vehicle, i enjoy throwing mine into a bend, steering on the strottle to get...

Steve you are right in the fact of std vs std the clio v6 is faster than the williams this is not a fact as i would lay money on most williams not being std, and as iv said (and can prove) a lightly fettled williams IS quicker than a vee,but this is hearsay yes i agree with the mini, but...

ah cool let me know if you could mate :) where are vids of the new beast then!!

i will say the williams might not have had world victories, but it did in fance, check out any of jean ragnotti's vids for proof not that im stickin up for the willy, but with light tuning mods (the engine was still factory sealed) mine would hit 60 in under 6 seconds, run the 1/4 mile in 14...

My old car^^^ :D was waiting for you bud ;) do you have any more dash shots of my old one matey?

GUYS GUYS!! Seriously it amazes me how CS threads can turn into such a huge agrument! The clio V6 is a gorgous looking car, and fast too, and no doubt will become a classic one day and its already respected for its 'playfull handling' The civic type r is also a great car, ok not as...

il chat to you next time im on msn hun :approve:

really laura? im getting more confused by the minute lol, what size shall i get arrrhhh

well its one iv had before, and its been all good on my previous mk1 clio's but i was sceptical about bore size all of a sudden lol

im even more confused now lol

but surely that wont be the prob,as if the calipers wew not moving your brake pedal would feel like a sack of s**t?

so are we all agtreeing that the 2 inch bore is too small for a 172? as my old hybrid had a 2 inch system and that had no problems with power (see martins vids lol as you all know) and i wouldnt have thought that the difference between an F7R and F4R would have that much?

to be honest i wish i had never sold my hybrid to martin, i miss that car so much :( yours is basically how i would have wanted mine to look, apart from id still have my turbines on as i loved them in black :) damn it im spamming my own thread lol bk to vids!

http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/repository/MoT%20Issue%2031%20-%20Apr%202006.pdf this is what i meant matey,guess you have lookedat this? so you can hold the footbrake down and freely spin the rear wheels by hand?

what rev limit you got buddy? my old hybrid would limit in 5th @ 6800 rpm @ about 143 mph ish,depending on the good old acuracy of renault speedos lol, some days it would show 140 others 145 lol oh and a bit of wheel spin there jay? ;) i love your car sell it to me

Re: My Ph1 172 track sl*g Progress Thread sorry matey :o so whats next on yours? cheers matey let me know :o

lol good girl! should look sweet, just need to buy my all the bits i take off mine now pinks

have a search on the guides section mate im sure this is a known problem with the cups, dont think you need to replace anything,im sure its like that way std

thats what i was thinking, im always very sceptical about bore size, i know it can make a difference so i wanna get it right

na id love a shorter ratio box, thats what il be putting in if i ever change my engine, ratio's far too long imo throttle bodies FTW!

il measure my blueflame later lol, so 2inch too small?

not on f1's mate, but the fronts aways seemed a bit like its leaning because of the poor state of my prev front shocks lol, now iv replaced them and the springs its like its falling over its sidewalls, only when really pushing on though mind

iv just had a look in the manual and it says 2.3 bar in the front and 2.1 in the back, so i need a bit more in the front lol

i have a funny feeling thats what my blueflame is now

is that good or bad on a 172?