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Optimax every fill......Smother than ones run on unleaded. You need to run a few tank first before you see the benifits.

Or save 5k and get a 172 cup......

LOL v-tec power 1600 civic engine "few mods;) " = 12k rpm..! Oh Turbocharged aswell.............put your ear plugs in..! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2063620350942876056&q=civic

Willynone.. Would that be a Vectra Type S....:clown:

From standing std the clio would pull away even more(cup anyway)..Civics not the best out the blocks...

lol you know that French dude who recons hes a bit of a Jedi behind the wheel... He used the force on the Cup, that why they are so fast ... lol

No arguments from me. Im leaving this thread now as its a blind alley...

Willy = Penis........ The Ragnotti, well at least he had a bit to do this the cars suspension set-up so in fact there is more than a link them Williams ever was..... Anyways who cares..

Williams was sucessful as the F2 cars were allowed to be so light. All the 4wd class where about 2/300 kg heavier. The 306 maxi was the most sucessfull in the Williams class. Ultimately the complains about the weight differential (enforced min weight as the 4wd car could have been a lot...

Again means nothing....to many factors..

lol........ Willygone i have to say that its one of those debates that will rage longer than N.Ireland...... Its all irrelevant really as you dont own either...

Think that show alls we need to know...mild modded Willy vs std cup = nothing in it...

Very true it will not be a very true comparision but better than round a track, which is correct. Wouldnt be happy bodging my engine with a valver head...ooooh Anyhow seeing as your now a Willynone you will have to ask your mates. Yours was one of the slow ones i believe ..;)

Linking Williams to the Clio...they had no involvement apart from the stickers and plaques...hence PR bullshit

PR Bullshit.....

Cup - de-cat/ik/chip Williams - What have a 1.8 head on if it lowers performance..? plus im sure it has some other mods.. Running in a staightline is more comparible to comparing on track (everyone can cane it through the gears)...lol In summary more relevant.

Ditto^^^ Yozzasport is the cheepest place.

http://media.putfile.com/Cup-Vs-2live

Bit like my dentist......

Well i would get down to renault i would be forking out over 100 quid on something i have a warrenty for...

182 cup shock rates are different to std 172/cup and 182.. Get std ones replaced under warrenty.. Kick off make a fuss they will replace them.

Warrenty ???

Yup..!

I think thats the most honest post i seen from a Williams/hybrid owner for a long time...:) Hope the car back on track soon.

Buy one of those potable canopies from costco dead cheep and a car would fit under just incase it rained..!

Williams is comparible to a Trophy or cup really......and the later are a bit better all round..Brakes, staightline and handling..IMHO

LOL please take drivers out of the equation... plus the car have different levels of mods. Just cause you pass someone then doesnt mean your car is faster. Passed GT3's round the Ring and many exotica on trackdays but it doesnt mean that its (172Cup) a faster car.. Your point isnt really valid...

Trophy and 172cup in the same hands (both unmodified) would be quicker round the track than a Williams but not by much..a FF172 / 182 may be even closer. On paper is states a bigger margin but thats with racing drivers. I had a valver and williams 10 years ago and they were great but the 172 cup...

Well we will have to see if the silly none constructive posts stop.....

Didnt say they did...pricing comment are about general prices... But as my comment stated K-tec sell H&R for the 172 cheaper. And they are usually very very expensive RRP + vat. As said my comments are just and correct.