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Exactly. It's like saying a basic 3 series with cloth interior is the runt of the range. Still a great car, but the comment holds true. It looks hideous, but that wouldn't put me off.

Call me on the cell, I'd quite happily travel for a decent strop in one. Bit like a brunette though, best approached from behind.

They won't listen! Even Mr Trophy (ie, me) is admitting that, at the moment, it appears the 200 is a big step up from the Trophy. I'm pretty sure the drive will confirm this.

FFs, runt relative to the rest of the range, not a runt full stop dude.

Exactly. Hence why the lap Vs the Trophy is relevant;)

I'll dig out the issue and scan it in over to you fella.

Lol. I'd be ecstatic if I averaged 40mpg from my 17poo.

Grow up son! Didn't say it was much quicker. Regardless, this is about the 200. Which is a step up from either.

There's a shock. The ph2 172 is the runt of the range you fool, not a runt full stop. Still a great hot hatch but for the mk2 clio's Tropy>182>172ph1>172ph2. Ergo, runt of the range.

Thats out of date fella. When they changed the configuration of the circuit evo took a stack of cars over. Dry and hot day, drove the 197cup straight after the Trophy. The Trophy was something ridiculous like 0.2s quicker. The 200 ruins them both, I can't wait to have a drive.

2 actually

I'm running over 2 for normal road use. Set-up using epically expensive equipment.

Loved my Trophy, but did struggle putting the power down compared to the 182 due to the extra stiffness. Standard ph2 172, best looking version though! And yours is much improved;)

Welcome to denial;). 10mph greater apex speed over the same 2 corners at Bedford. Thats a hell of a difference. Much like the ph2 172, the 197 will be seen as the runt of this gen Clio in years to come.

200 yes, 197 no. The Trophy was quicker than the 197 at Bedford (and oddly the 182cup quicker still by fractions). The 200 monsters them both, 2sec per lap and 10mph greater apex speed than the 197 over the final 2 corners. It's def a step up.

As long as you don't want Exalto's!

I would of stayed with 15's, but tyre choice for 205's is poor.

Surely you could run more than 2.5 degree camber on a track car?

Build quality spot on, rears spot on. Front's too firm for my taste, but it's a personal thing, and they can be valved/sprung to your preference.

My exhaust light came on reg, never caused a problem. But if you've got warranty, get it checked.

Awesome/

17 would be too big. 15's are great, have a search for pics of drrollo's car.

Happened on ours a few times, static build up I was told. I think, we removed the battery and held the power button down for a minute. Then put battery in and try again.

Which one we talking about, the yellow sub or the stealth 172?

That thing is seriously loud!

Seen? Or heard!

Srsly? You live under rock?

I went full soft front, 6-8 on the rear.

Try max soft on the front fella.

Best reason for a 182 is racing blue. Only colour worth having.