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Any evening this week. Tonight is fine if youre not up to anything. Some time between 7pm and 9pm? You got some roads in mind? I usually use a flat piece of road out in Derbyshire so if youve got somewhere close enough and quiet enough well use that. Rhys

Oakley - meet up with me some time this week if you want and use the AP22. 8 seconds seems a touch optimistic maybe? Rhys

Oh yeah, and LED washer jets and valve caps, a MOTORSPORT sunstrip, stick on aviation fuel cap (or does it already have one?), a picture of an extended middle finger on the numberplate and, in swirly writing on the boot "My other toy has tits". Class.

Dash - how about some VTS "16v" badges? ;)

At York, Paddy. The strip at York! Id been reading higher up the post about going to York to test your car out......not from some traffic lights!!!

Erm....take the AP22 down the strip! Test its accuracy....

Ill come along too. Dont want to run my car, but Id like someone to take the AP22 down the strip with them a few times so I can see how accurate it is. Rhys

Tell em youll sell it to them for £6495 in that case! They can make their money on the Cup rather than on both cars....! EDIT: <A onclick="window.open(base_url + /pricing/used_car/HelpYear.asp,Help,scrollbars,height=300,width=400);return false;" href=...

Haggle! Keep going on about how the price for the cup is fine, but the trade in price is no good at all. After all, it is nearly new and theyll sell it on no problem etc. etc. Think youll be best arguing over the trade in price rather than the price of the Cup with a dealer....

_KDF - one for you.....Craggy against Paddy. 172 about 1 car length ahead by 85/90mph. Id say thats fairly worthy of a race. Feck up your start even a tiny bit and hes had you. BTW, before the "102"/underpowered accusations fly, Paddys 172 put out the highest power of a non-modded 172 in the...

Thought it was reading a bit low myself.

I did some testing with the AP22......got 1676bhp at the wheels and 267mph top speed :confused::confused::confused: Something aint right.

I rather liked the F1s that I had on my MK2 172. They were the predecessor to the current F1s though. Way better than the sh*tty Contis.

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Strip the fecker out! Cheapest way to get a bit more performance and everything can be put back before you sell it....

Mines a b*****d on the Williams! Thought something was coming off the bottom of the car and it turned out to be the bloody sunroof. Its alright it I open it to a tilt, but it I slide it back it bangs and crashes as I go over bumps! Ah....that good ole French build quality....

Did you get the car from new? You might be able to reject it. Sounds like a nightmare...

Did some AP22 runs last night. Changing gear on the rev limit (mines extended to 6750 at the moment) loses me TONS of time. Not even going to say what happens to 0-60 changing there :oops:. 6500rpm was also no good. In the Williams, changing around 6200rpm seems to get the best results. Extended...

Out of interest Griff, why so much better. Ive been using ZAlarm for a year or two with no problems. What extra features does the Sygate one have? Is it really worth changing? Rhys

Whys that Paddy? "Entertainment" purposes? ;)

CTR, Cup, MK1 V6 or an Evo 5 are topping the list at the moment. Just need some money now :(

The wide arches look good, but the rest is just criminal damage :confused:

I thought that max speed in gears were determined by the rev limit and the gearing, not how many bhp or airfilter the car has! If a car is geared to do 65mph at 6500rpm, more bhp will just mean it gets to 65mph quicker rather than a higher speed in the same gear. To go quicker in gear the rev...

Can someone explain what running lean and rich mean and exactly how it will feck up an engine please?

I think the timings are supposed to be pretty accurate right out of the box. Im definitely going to take it to a RWYB day to find out though. Something not quite right about those 1/4 mile times, but then again Paddys car does seem to be a quick one, so we shall see at York soon.....!

Mine sounds like a tractor until it warms up :o

6100rpm according to the stats on the car stats bit of the site...

As it says, where in the rev range does the williams produce its peak power? Surely not at 6500rpm as thats right on the limter???

Adi / Paddy - can you give me some of the text files from the AP22 from your cars (inc. if possible roughly how much fuel you had on board and the temperature as displayed)? Want to have a play with Excel and my AP22 data.

Im going to test the accuracy of stopwatch timings with the AP22!