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No they are out there if you know where to look;) Standard they make 227bhp and are 4x4 drive. As legend has it they do 0-60 in 6.1 secs Ins Grp 20 so thats a b**ch, apparently there quite fragile but there true 911 eaters

Re: Holy s**t!!!! Sorry, but what a fuckiing tosser

15k?? Thats a farking bargain! You couldnt pick up a high mileage 2002/3 RS4 for those kind of benjamins. I really like the M5, unless you have a keen eye for cars you would never know that it packs 400 galloping ponies under the bonnet!

In theory your car should be a shade slower off the mark but not much as someone said you should get a better top end (airstrip ofcourse). My mechanic pointed out to me that apparently putting 17s on the 172s seems to reek havoc with the rear bearings, keep a listen out for that

Right getting the wheels on my phase one 172 done next week. Im thinking of getting them done Anthracite, Gun metal gray-ish. The car is silver has anyone had this done>? ITs the standard OZ wheels that are on it at the moment. Dan

Tooshi old boy, Tooshi!

My old boys a mechanic aswell i took him to see mine, he said it was minted for the age and i went with it. Made a good choice from walking away, that could have been a never ending nightmare!

Wouldnt be my selection to be honest

Very good points made here, the likley hood is the dealer will give you no where near what there selling for privatley!

Vey wise mate, id never buy a car with someone telling me "honestly,its been done!" Bypass!

Has it got the 2.0 engine in it? Rear Discs and callipers?

Sorry do you mean a Phase one or two? Buy privatley but make sure she has been treated well, it cost me a fortune to put the neglect right that the car sufered before i had it

YOu dont happen to be a Fiat salesman by anychance do you?:)

ID just bite the bullet and go for the Clio sport mate, you wont regret it. Astras are piss slow!

GT4 might be a good buy, really reliable and buckts loads of potential!

Find a mechanic thats prepared to do it as a sideliner... ...I just got mine done,tnesioners and belts and service and it all came to £550, quite resonable, the cars sweet as a nut!

Hmm that might be a problem if you went for a Clio Sport, it might shoot it skywards! What do you have in mind??

I know this is rich coming from a Renault owner. But fiats have terrible reliability issues, probably 10 times worse than Renault. Fast cars but id avoid it like the plague!

I wouldnt say the FTO is crap id just say its an aquired taste. IF you can get the rare manual MIVEC 6 speed your laughing but there very hard to come by. IF insurance aint an issue and you want somthing silly fast buy a Pulsar GTiR

Whats the GSI like? I quite fancied one of them but then the Type R will do the same thing better?

Good bye 0-60 time lol

PMSL!!!!!!

Ah the rare flying ostritch how i do not appreciate there deposits.

Well they do say that a cars timing belt etc should be done at 72k or 5 years (whatever comes first) Ask them if this has been done and get them to show you the appropriate paper work. When i bought mines over a month ago it had 45k on and had been serviced every 8,000 miles but the timing...

VTI/ Jordan if you can get a minter, alot of spoon parts would take it well above 180 hp

Just bought my phase one 172 with 45,000 miles on it, it also has steering some wear to it, as do the interior door handles

Buy it mate, a rear bumper and tape casette are hardly worth the grief!!!

Where in Glasgow are you mate>? Theres alot of high rated crime zones here that might be why. Im 21 and mines is £1297 on my Mk1 172, driving for 4 years with no ncb, with elephant!

This man has good taste, ive been in one and its by far the best car ive ever been in, that V8 is second to none!!! Saloon cars should not be able to go that fast!!! Ive been in a 430 Modena, 400bhp Supra, 911 Careza and the RS4 was by far the best by miles!!!!

Damn cant see the link, can you post the URL and ill go to it!?!?!?