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Thanks for your help I'm thinking that just cause the lights are going out that maybe the ignition is still on ? He thinks they should stay on like a normal key in stage 1

But the lights on dash go out in seconds and don't stay on which he says means the ignition is not staying on ?

Tried that procedure and the lights on dash all go out after seconds and I'm getting it mapped so it drives better and gets rid of the flat spot

Yeah I agree but they did try everything that normally works on renaults and what works on Meganes but they obviously haven't come across a 197 before so couldn't get the ignition to this stage and after 2 hours of trying gave up h I

Just so people understand , I'm not asking how to turn the car on I'm asking if anyone knows the sequence to enable a 197 to be in "stage1" or "diagnostics check" ? Thank you

It's not just turning the car on , it's getting it to "stage 1" or "diagnostic check" with the ignition

It's zen sport which people reckon are ok ? The lights have to stay on and not go off

Had my 197 in for a remap today but they couldn't get the ignition into stage 1 / maintainance mode so they could upload the map , Anyone know the sequence to get this up and the lights to stay on not just on check and off ??? Thanks

Has anybody measured the size of the o/d on these ?

Anybody replaced there's ?

Just put my 197 in for a remap and they found a "knock sensor error" (had the Center silencer removed/ replaced with straight pipe just before it went in for remap) the remap placed thinks it's just a faulty sensor so I need to replace it , I've ordered one so asking people if it's easy to...

I'm thinks my the same myself , maybe they had to take the Center console but the buttons are defiantly loose and wobble abit were as they were solid ,

Had my gearbox replaced and I've noticed that the buttons that I press for the heating (cross shape) and ac one now wobble ? Can I stop them as they used to be solid ? Cheers

Can I put one from a normal Clio on a 197 as the 197 ones r ridiculous price ?

I'm getting it mapped straight after its taken off so they will get rid of the flat spot for me . And call me stupid but what do u mean by "WOT"

Is it really that different even if u don't rag it ? Have u had urs done ?

Cheers guys for the comments , I'm going ahead and getting it removed , I want it a little louder but nothing to loud , I've tried looking at vids on YouTube of clios with this done but can only find ones of people ragging the sh@t out of them so obviously there gonna be loud but myself I don't...

U know what some are like

I see a lot of people have had there Center silencer removed on here so I've booked mine in to be removed also but just before it gets done , has anyone had there car fail an MOT due to having this removed , I'm keeping the cat on by the way .cheers

That's sounds perfect but I bet you don't live near essex tho do you ?

It's £1020 all in with 12 months warranty , the price goes up massively when you want a good warranty 2 month = 300 6 months = 500 12 months = 650

Thinking of getting my Center silencer cut out and replaced with the pipe they sell on eBay ? Are these any good or do they leak and blow ? Thank you for any comments

It's a 197 , I've paid for box now and it's booked in to get replaced

Before I go book in for a refurbished box do people think this is an ok price , I've phoned up quite a few places and this is the cheapest and its local and they offer a courtesy car which I need as its my only car , box comes with 12 months warranty and price fitted is £1020 , obviously I can...

65mm or 2.55"

Hopefully this works

If I could work out how to insert an image of upload one with my tips on , mine r 65mm as that's the closest size to original exhaust

I work next to zen sport so will pop in

I've put some on but think they look a bit small

I've been seeing a few 197's have had there Center silencer replaced with a straight pipe , just a few question if people would be kind enough to answer :- Would this damage the rear box ? Would this decrease performance ? Does this make it sound better ? Would it pass an mot without one ...