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20kg dont make much difference at all!! not noticible anyway!!! not worth the hassle of loosing the rears and not being able to take passengers!! i can tell u that from experience

loosing the rear dont make any difference at all tbh!! i did it with mine and now my rears are back in!!! might b a good idea to remove the rear if u intend to track the car....... only too allow space to fit in a spare set of track wheels and tools ;) nice car btw though dude

after having the rear bench out for what seems like ages (a year) i wanna put it back in for practicality!! the problem is however i have lots of odd car parts in my garage and i cant tell what seat belts i need to use for the rear bench!! also i cant remember where they bolt back into!! has...

yeh on coilovers i agree!!

true but i am sure it could go another 10 or 20mm at the rear!!! i am only sayign bags for more driving use than stance at a show!!! as i said i know more than most whats its like to ground out all the time

totally disagree!!! the car is very nice indeed but still needs something more to give it the edge!! in regards to bags i am only talkin from experience!! my current show car is slammed on coilovers and i love the stance but i always catch the front bumper wherever i drive!! bags would cost a...

dude i am in the same boat with another car!! i put my car on ebay and had a buyer in 5 days!! deposit paid and all then the day the car was due to go too its new owner he didn't turn up and since then i hav not spoken to him!!! hav to re advertise now whcih is not good :(

its low but not that low!!! but if u want it too look good u put up with it!! if it dont scrape it aint low enuff ;)

really cool dude!! i would love to c it with a trimmed vinyl bonnet and roof though!! also put it on bags and i would consider lookin at Fuel doors for a trick fuel filler cap!!! a nice 3 inch round screen would look nuts ;) u done any interior work yet???

looks like ur buying a really nice car m8!! the h&r's make so much difference but its not till u get it on track u really see where the money spent on them goes!!! my cup on h&r's feels so much more capable than my mates trophy round track!!!

u dont hav to wear helmets on the ring because it is still classed as a road not a track!! i wore a helmet on my first couple of laps but then didn't bother for the rest!!!

there is only a few for now but here is my cup at the Ring and Spa this weekend gone :) Nurburgring Spa i will upload more pix when i get them :)

am thinkin too many purists on this forum who dont like anything but the norm!! i hav seen better Euro Clio's but it is a very nice car

me and a friend went to the Renault Sport trackday at Spa on Sunday!! i just wondered who else from here went and what they thought of it?? i really enjoyed the track but after doin the day b4 at the Nurburgring it was a little anticlimax in comparison!!! i also got to go out for a lap as a...

i am goin against the grain.... i like it!!! i think its cool!!

there is another clio ( mk1 ) running just over 152db!! that is also runnin 2 18s in a ported sound wall!! my show car runs 147db with 4 12s but the install was built for looks over anything else!! i would agree if u want it loud then 18s are the way to go but for better sq u would b better...

u did ask for a dicussion and that is wot ur gettin :) i would give a vxr a go anytime!! if i loose who cares!! as long as ur happy with ur car and its performance then it dont matter!! there is always cars out there faster than urs!! i have never driven a vxr but hav driven other clio...

i honestly dont think there is anything in it!! a friend has a VXR but i am get to play with it in my cup!!

really!!! i would hav thought the torque would hav been higher!! mine runs 157ft/lb and is pretty much standard!!

forced induction?? ;)

i cannot talk about the Viper but i hav a Maxogen!! i gotta admit i never got the car dyno's b4 but with the Maxogen and a full exhaust system and de cat the cup runs over 178hp!! so defo not a drop in power there!! however i am still not convinced its better than a ITG Panel with a decent CAF...

yeh and with near 200hp at the fly u will b more like 170 to 175ft/lb!! i hear upgrading to a Helix is a good option??

wot sort of Torque was ur puttin out Mark?? mine peaked at around 156 to 157 at 4500 right too 5600rpm!! it seems lookin at the graphs that mine is quite different to others!! but it looks like all the near standard clio's drop in torque at around 3500rpm b4 they rise up again!!

KG52 ( white wheeled cup ) is mine :) its been lowered on H&R's around 30mm front and 50mm rears!! the car has been set up by Mark Fish though

they always say a standard 172 will run around 165hp and a standard 182 around 175hp!! apart from a few cars that shocked ( both high and low figures ) most were within a few hp of what is expected

all Fly figures dude mine was 178.7 Fly / 148.3 Wheels

nice pix btw dude!! glad someone got pix of my car on the rollers coz i forgot my camera ;)

nice meet people!! good to finally meet some of u guys!! ;) Markcup = 177 Bhp - Decat, K tec stealth, Itg pannel , and a group n ecu Sanner = 177 Bhp - Itg pannel Markyx2cuk = 178.7 Bhp, Decat, K Tec Recessed Exhaust, ITG Maxogen

ITG panel filter is a good option for the money!! nice one on the purchase dude!!

dude there are plenty of decent cups for upto 6k!!! from my experience H&R's make the car so much better than standard!! it really transforms the car!! especially if u get it set up properly!!! ok with setup and H&R's u wont get much change for a grand but IMO its worth it!! as for brakes...