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Hey, much as the question on reflection is a bit of a 'mistake', I understand the panic which ensues following an incident and we all learn by our mistakes, don't we? Also, you know what dads can be like!!:o Hope you get everything sorted (including new plates).

The plates you refer to which appear blank probably have the maker in the corner hardly distinguishable, but there nonetheless for legal reasons – I believe Halfords plates for instance are like this.

​Not lighter than a 200 Cup – exactly the same.

Agree, but strange that the launch was firmly focused on the track day where the Cup version was unveiled and indeed was only allowed to be driven on the track.

PLEASE NOTE – flappy paddles turn with wheel, NOT fixed to column, which is how it should be on the standard car. But isn't.

...then remembered you had slip-ons on.:o

​Probably.

Didn't take him/her many miles to scuff the front alloys:o

What a poorly executed document! It was really clever to use the Spider text twice – once accompanying the actual car and once accompanying the Clio 182 Trophy. Not one picture showing 200T with standard wheels – I know it won't look good, but even so... And what's that comical pedal layout...

Goodyear Eagle F1s on 17s Dunlop Sport Maxx on 18s

+1

Fools.

That's would have thought Steve, not would of thought.:D

As you wish.

C'est la vie

Yes:rasp:

No, but they weren't a softer, five door, family-orientated car.

Er...no and that really wasn't necessary was it. Just registering an opinion, as I am disappointed, as others, in the direction the new model is going – i.e.. fast family hatch. This is a forum – look it up, surprise yourself.

Now how could I possibly 'force' my opinion on you or any other forum user for that matter? You have a positive opinion about the new model, I have a negative opinion about the new model. Both opinions are valid, so get over it.

Because I can.

:banghead:

Er...but it doesn't.

Yes it WILL upshift if you hit the limiter in 'normal' and 'sport' mode, but not in 'race' mode.

Fully manual in 'Race' mode, but then the ESC safety net are also removed – wouldn't fancy opposite-lock tail happy motoring with cars approaching in the opposite direction.:eek:

Only if you have it permanently in 'Race' mode.:o

I get where you're coming from, but there's a world of difference between a 'practical' car and a 'practical family' car – all the classic hot hatches down the years cannot ever really be described as 'practical family' cars, be fair.

Aaah, those were the days!

And therein lies the issue – there are some of us who would much rather drive a great hot hatch, than a great little family hot hatch.

Same here – there is a knack – I lift myself into them, with the result that my last 197s Recaros were pristine after 4.5 years – the 200s are being cared for likewise.

It's never going to sound anything other than promising when the video is produced by Renault for Renault.