100k but how much further???

[deadonkey]

Hi,

As the title suggests my 2002 1.2 16v clio is currently creeping up to the 100k mark. (97.5k to be exact)

In the past I have always been of the school of 100k and your engines about shot, that is because any car ive seen hit 100k have all been sheds. 1989 Metro :rasp: for example.

I also understand that small engined cars dont usually clock up earth shattering miles such as a 2.5 L Diesel Vecta rep mobile would. Without alot of problems.

My question is how many more miles can I expect before it becomes uneconomical to keep the car. as far as I can tell It seems to drive the same as it always has. unless im just not noticing a steady decline

So far its had apart from the normal servicing. Which is a FRSH.

Cambelt 75k
Battery 80k
1 Rear Wheel Bearing 90k
Brake Servo and Master Cylinder 97k

 

[AlexS]

Martin89 is the one to speak too, think his did 130k before he changes the engine, but then he gives his death.

 

[Deeg]

I've got a MK1 PH3 which is currently on 125K, of which I have done 75K, and *touches wood, scratches head, finds rabbit foot, salutes magpie, gets 4 leaf clover etc* the only things that have been done are consumables.

Gets serviced around every 8K.
Needs the cambelt doing again.

TBH mate, I don't think it makes sense to get rid of my car until something goes drastically wrong *finds all of the above lucky charms again that it won't*, because it would only be worth a few hundred quid.

Yes, mine is a 10 year old French car, which rattles a fair bit, but it keeps getting me where I need to go.

 

[Josh@Renparts]

the engines are cheap enough to replace.. any reasonable engine place will drop you one in for a small cost.. you have lost all the money in it already so i would keep going tbh... not got a lot to lose..

 

[deadonkey]

The problem with keeping it going is I rely on it to get to work.
I travel 80 miles per day in it, and since I work stupid shifts I cant always get a bus to work so if the engine did go bang it would be a mad rush to find one, buy it and get it fitted. Im not exactly looking forward to that

Im supprised the suspension hasnt needed work yet. Its still on the original springs and stuff.

I shouldnt have said that.

 

[Leeshez]

Every car is different. My mate has a corsa with 103K on it. A "X" reg 2000. He uses it every day and mon to fri he must start and lock it 100 times a day. He has had a radiator 2 X starter motors, tyres on the front, 1 X exhaust, and he has just replaced the front springs as he hits the kerb a lot lol.

 

[AhmedRSi]

I have a mk2ph1 with 80k, wonder how long it will last at this rate

 

[TomTom]

I've just hit 80k, no major problems so far.

Oil & filter every 5k I tend to do

 

[White16valver]

No reason why it shouldn't last for 200k if serviced and looked after - williams engines have been rebuilt at 250k without any evidence of internal wear iirc!

 

[Russ_16v]

my 172's on 102,207 and (fingers crossed!) is running sweet

just dont rag it from cold,and keep it regularly serviced and they will last matey

 

[White16valver]

I don't think I've ever heard of an engine on here going bang! lol

Well, apart from Yoz's first lump - but that had had 80k of full on abuse, with about half that on track I reckon LOL

 

[bluesntwos]

My girlfriend's T-reg Clio 1.2 has 114k on the clock. We bought it from the auctions in Brighouse in Nov '04 for £1400 with 87k on. How's that for value for money!!! It's been cheap as chips to run as well.

I'm using it at the moment as she has just bought a 182!

 

[edde]

Im supprised the suspension hasnt needed work yet. Its still on the original springs and stuff.

Depedns how you drive and what you accept I chnaged mine at 70 but realy it was worn by 50k.

I don't think I've ever heard of an engine on here going bang! lol

have a read round there quite a few cambelt snapping/aux belt snapping and wreching engines is common on 172/182's

My question is how many more miles can I expect before it becomes uneconomical to keep the car. as far as I can tell It seems to drive the same as it always has. unless im just not noticing a steady decline

How longs a piece o string you don't sound like you drive it that hard so thats going to help most of the time the car dies due to oil gasgets leaking to much so engines are chnaged or the body rusts not so much an issue with the Mk2's though.

 

[White16valver]

I don't think I've ever heard of an engine on here going bang! lol

have a read round there quite a few cambelt snapping/aux belt snapping and wreching engines is common on 172/182's

Ok, point taken lol

I was meaning more like the big bangs, where conrods go AWOL!

 

[_Alex_D_]

I'm on 104k on ph1 172 and hoping everything ok. Next service will get aux belt done.

My friend Meg had 98k on and cam belt snapped. Cost £800 to fix.

 

[edde]

have a read round there quite a few cambelt snapping/aux belt snapping and wreching engines is common on 172/182's

Ok, point taken lol

I was meaning more like the big bangs, where conrods go AWOL!

They won't fail unless its a manurfacturing defect.

There designed to last forever under normal conditions the fatigure rating and wear would be way to low for it even to be an issue maybe 5 million miles the'y fail but its difficult to prove.

 

[RichRSi]

Your oil (among other things) will be a good indicator of it's condition, like the way a doctor checks your piddle!
Check your oil, is it thick and black after roughly 5-10K?
Do you have to top up the oil regulary? Is the exhaust coated with thick black soot and the spark plugs caked in carbon?
If you can answer yes to all of these the chances are your engine is starting to show signs of old age and wear. You can get a pressure guage for checking the compression of each cylinder, check these against the factory figures, if it's dropped this can show where you are losing oil and power.
It'll burn oil as it escapes past the rings if they are worn and this'll show up as deposits of your plugs and exhaust tip or even on your drive when you start up in the same spot.
The sludge like oil, even after changes, is a sign that the engine is wearing internally.
If your oil is still golden after 5k or even 10k or general driving thats good!
If you are burning little or no oil and your plugs look to be in good nick (see a haynes manual for picks) that's also good.

hope that's a help

 

[Faxo]

My PH2 172 went bang at 101k, ahhh but that wasnt the cars fault it was an Escorts fault

Had a Galaxy taxi in the other day - this isnt a lie

Came in for a slight knock on the steering. So i goes upto it, its a 52 plate Ghia and it looks clean as anything so think he must have just got it

Starts it up, sounds lovely. Had a look at the mileage

368,000 miles

Couldnt beleive it, it was mint, Dunlops all round, no leaks and oringional engine!

 

[Rob22]

We had friends in Canada that had a pickup on just over 1 million! had only had the services done and a few things changed on about 700,000! :quiet:

 

[deadonkey]

It does use a fair bit of oil. however Im not sure that its actually burning it, it seems that it is a leak though. The head is always coated in oil although none seems to drip off. Ive never seen any oil on the road when its been parked there overnight. Id say it uses 1L between services (18k).

I had to get my spark plugs changed after the engine was firing on 3 cylinders at around 88k. I never seen the plugs I took it to an independant garage near where I work It was running rough and went into safe mode.

The garage said the plugs were bad although they would say that. They wouldnt say they were ok but we changed them anyway or else I would have kicked off.

There doesnt seem to be any loss of power though.

 

[new_world_disorder]

mines at 138.9k and im only just changing it

 

[deadonkey]

on a 1.8 engine. on a 1.2 surely that kind of milage is going to put a strain on my engine compared to yours.

It wont be that long until I have 140k maybe 18 months

 

[RichRSi]

(Id say it uses 1L between services (18k) :

This is not a huge amount of oil in what would be considered over a years worth of mileage (the average being 12k) in a little engine.


(I had to get my spark plugs changed after the engine was firing on 3 cylinders at around 88k. I never seen the plugs) :

Would have been usefull to see them although I doubt they were fibbing. Did they give you a reason why it was firing on 3? mechanical fault, coil pack? You apparently get vee's dropping cylinders when a duff coil pack goes down.
Years ago, with an old banger I ran around in, it was running on 3 cylinders after a week of buying it so I wipped the plugs out and they were badly caked in thick shiny black carbon. When I stripped the engine the piston rings had seized (virtually melted) into their recesses in the pistons and therefor scored grooves the cylinder bore.
This is probably the worst case scenario of missfiring and very unlightly to be what was wrong with yours, so don't worry, it just shows how the plugs can give you an idea of the cars health.

(There doesnt seem to be any loss of power though.) :

There you go, you'd notice any power loss on a small engine like this if somthing major was up.

 

[edde]

I know of a few old 1.2 type cars with well over 100k on them and there fine Oms old 1.2 had 180k on it.

I've just been in a 1.2 today with 116k on it sounds just like any other 1.2 does.