172 build quality is sh*t

[Turkish]

just saying that i wouldnt put forward an itailian car as a good example of anything other than style unless i was spending the thick end of 60k upwards thats all

 

[172man]

the CTR only produces a minute more torque than a 10+ year old sh*te astra gte, although autocar last week tested it at 15.9 to a ton, but we know how good autocrap is

 

[Turkish]

Quote: Originally posted by SHORTY on 20 April 2003

its not just about engine the whole clio172 is crap

then sell it and shut the f*ck up

 

[Jonto]

Quote: Originally posted by 172loony on 20 April 2003

just saying that i wouldnt put forward an itailian car as a good example of anything other than style unless i was spending the thick end of 60k upwards thats all

I am on about engines ! read what i type ! Italians make the best engines - simple ! Alfas V6 in 2.5 or 3 ltr, ducatis v-twin, not to mention ferrari, lambo, masserati, lancia, what about fiats 5cyl 2.0 turbo, in the coupe, or even the 1.2 16v in that bloody horrible punto thing. I am not on about the cars that they are in, i am on about the engines themselves, their sound, look, performance and reliabilty etc.

They are great engines !

 

[billabong]

I can kind of identify where shorty is coming from. I had a Punto for 11 months and it was a total sack of sh*t!!! So I SOLD IT!!! Do the same shorty. If you dont like it sell it and buy something else. My Clio is well built in my opinion, whatever car you get they squeak and rattle so learn to live with it. And Autocar has just voted the Clio the best used car. Its as well made as a VW Polo. Buy something else and f##k off!!!

 

[172man]

i think its much improved since my old valver more solid doors etc, mine doesnt rattle etc, engine does sound gruff dont know why that is, it does have some titanium in the car so thats good hehe

 

[SHORTY]

temper temper
not had any easter eggs have you 172 loony

 

[SHORTY]

just face it they are sh*t

 

[172man]

id say honda are good but never make torque?

 

[woots]

172 loony has got a point though. Did you get the car for free or are you just keeping it for a bet? There must be some reason.

 

[marcus cliogtt]

lmfao get a real clio - 16v or a williams!!!

 

[SHORTY]

check that billabong guy or girl out whatever sex you are
they have even called a sh*t clio after you now



lol

 

[Turkish]

Quote: Originally posted by Jonto on 20 April 2003

Quote: Originally posted by 172loony on 20 April 2003

just saying that i wouldnt put forward an itailian car as a good example of anything other than style unless i was spending the thick end of 60k upwards thats all

I am on about engines ! read what i type ! Italians make the best engines - simple ! Alfas V6 in 2.5 or 3 ltr, ducatis v-twin, not to mention ferrari, lambo, masserati, lancia, what about fiats 5cyl 2.0 turbo, in the coupe, or even the 1.2 16v in that bloody horrible punto thing. I am not on about the cars that they are in, i am on about the engines themselves, their sound, look, performance and reliabilty etc.

They are great engines !

who wins countless awards at engine design awards year after year ? BMW in particular the S designation motorsport engines. the alfa v6 ill give you granted but dont think much of the rest . plus lambo masarati and ferrari fall into my 60k plus comment

 

[SHORTY]

compared to renault lada are about the same quality

 

[Turkish]

Quote: Originally posted by SHORTY on 20 April 2003


temper temper
not had any easter eggs have you 172 loony

got plenty thanks

 

[SHORTY]

go and eat them and you shut the f**k up

 

[172man]

the 172 has miles better build quality than my old valver SHORTY, that rattled like feck and the engine felt dead after 30k, but the 172 is OK

 

[sammy]

whos got the temper now u jack ass

16v Matt (im on sammys name btw...)

 

[Jonto]

Quote: Originally posted by 172loony on 20 April 2003

Quote: Originally posted by Jonto on 20 April 2003

Quote: Originally posted by 172loony on 20 April 2003

just saying that i wouldnt put forward an itailian car as a good example of anything other than style unless i was spending the thick end of 60k upwards thats all

I am on about engines ! read what i type ! Italians make the best engines - simple ! Alfas V6 in 2.5 or 3 ltr, ducatis v-twin, not to mention ferrari, lambo, masserati, lancia, what about fiats 5cyl 2.0 turbo, in the coupe, or even the 1.2 16v in that bloody horrible punto thing. I am not on about the cars that they are in, i am on about the engines themselves, their sound, look, performance and reliabilty etc.

They are great engines !

who wins countless awards at engine design awards year after year ? BMW in particular the S designation motorsport engines. the alfa v6 ill give you granted but dont think much of the rest . plus lambo masarati and ferrari fall into my 60k plus comment

Oh well, that must mean the rest are crap then !

Cant argue with some one who wears blinkers !

 

[SHORTY]

look at it this way the plastics are sh*t
the both rear shocks have gone and the car is only 3yr old
the door locks are crap and break down and cost £145 + the vat
the engines rattle and it take a lot to get them going
they all leak from the water bottles
door check sraps break
rear tailgate pistons break off the tailgate brackets
the list goes on

 

[billabong]

No w**k boy I called myself after my clio. Im a bloke by the way. If you want really bad quality buy any Fiat, Lancia or Alfa. They are unreliable, rust after a few months and bits fall off all the time!!! No one else on here complains like you do if you dont like the car get rid of it. Oh and sorry 172 loony the 1.2 16v Fiat lump is a terrible engine I had one in my last Punto the head gaskets like to blow after 4k, they overheat, they leak and there are loads of other problems I cant be arsed to go into. Altho they are quite quick (when they work )

 

[rt172]

Heheheh....dummy spitting rate of over 1/minute now acheived....!

 

[Turkish]

i agree with the v6, ferrari lambo and masarati but f example an e30 m3 engine old four pot with out vvt and design from the 80s can be tuned N/A to over 450bhp FACT how many engines can you say that about ?

 

[172man]

mine does leak some sh*t hehe, still beats 99% of cars though mwhahaha

 

[SHORTY]

ha ha ha so you got the stupid clio billabong another sh*t go at making the clio interesting to the younger driver
they cant pull the skin of a rice pudding
w**k boy

 

[sammy]

Quote: Originally posted by SHORTY on 20 April 2003

look at it this way the plastics are sh*t
the both rear shocks have gone and the car is only 3yr old
the door locks are crap and break down and cost £145 + the vat
the engines rattle and it take a lot to get them going
they all leak from the water bottles
door check sraps break
rear tailgate pistons break off the tailgate brackets
the list goes on

well u prob got the bad one or u a dick who doesnt know how to look after a car properly and therefore it will have problems, either way i laugh at u!!

16v Matt

 

[Turkish]

Quote: Originally posted by billabong on 20 April 2003

Oh and sorry 172 loony the 1.2 16v Fiat lump is a terrible engine I had one in my last Punto the head gaskets like to blow after 4k, they overheat, they leak and there are loads of other problems I cant be arsed to go into. Altho they are quite quick (when they work )

i said italian engines were sh*t didnt i. girl at work had the head gasket go on her 1.2 punto go twice too

 

[Jonto]

Quote: Originally posted by 172loony on 20 April 2003

i agree with the v6, ferrari lambo and masarati but f example an e30 m3 engine old four pot with out vvt and design from the 80s can be tuned N/A to over 450bhp FACT how many engines can you say that about ?

I agree, i think bmw do make good engines, even the diesel in the E46 is a corker !

I just think that renault dont make superb engines, and that the italians do make good engines !

 

[Turkish]

Quote: Originally posted by SHORTY on 20 April 2003

look at it this way the plastics are sh*t
the both rear shocks have gone and the car is only 3yr old
the door locks are crap and break down and cost £145 + the vat
the engines rattle and it take a lot to get them going
they all leak from the water bottles
door check sraps break
rear tailgate pistons break off the tailgate brackets
the list goes on

is yours a cut and shut job with no vin plates shorty ?

 

[sammy]

Quote: Originally posted by billabong on 20 April 2003

No w**k boy

lmao

16v Matt

 

[SHORTY]

billabong

Forum User




ha ha ha so you got the stupid clio billabong another sh*t go at making the clio interesting to the younger driver
they cant pull the skin of a rice pudding
w**k boy

 

[Jonto]

Quote: Originally posted by billabong on 20 April 2003

No w**k boy I called myself after my clio. Im a bloke by the way. If you want really bad quality buy any Fiat, Lancia or Alfa. They are unreliable, rust after a few months and bits fall off all the time!!! No one else on here complains like you do if you dont like the car get rid of it. Oh and sorry 172 loony the 1.2 16v Fiat lump is a terrible engine I had one in my last Punto the head gaskets like to blow after 4k, they overheat, they leak and there are loads of other problems I cant be arsed to go into. Altho they are quite quick (when they work )

My mate has a 1.2 16v - its done nearly 80k ! and guess what, he has head the head gasket replaced nearly 20 times, because they only last 4 k ! - Not !

What lancia and alfas did you own ?

 

[SHORTY]

no the car is the same as all you lot have got but iam not affraid to admit they are sh*t

 

[Turkish]

Quote: Originally posted by Jonto on 20 April 2003

Quote: Originally posted by 172loony on 20 April 2003

i agree with the v6, ferrari lambo and masarati but f example an e30 m3 engine old four pot with out vvt and design from the 80s can be tuned N/A to over 450bhp FACT how many engines can you say that about ?

I agree, i think bmw do make good engines, even the diesel in the E46 is a corker !

I just think that renault dont make superb engines, and that the italians do make good engines !

never said that renault were awesome at engines, but never been a fan of italian ones either apart froma select few, not having a dig at you mate just my opinion after being in and driving so many cars over the years. oh and shorty yes the ctr has more power and is marginally quicker but it has a very narrow power band really has to be kept on cam to get the best of it where the 172 has better wider spread and delivery, its a very different drive. and remeber i have driven both and LIKE both

 

[SHORTY]

whats wrong everyone seems to have lost the power to speak

 

[billabong]

You really are a prick Shorty!!! Obviously short by name, short by nature. Shorty is obviously a dick who cant look after cars!!! Several of my friends have just bought new Clios too and we are all really happy with them, several of my other friends have older Renaults and dont have many problems either. Like I said get rid of the car, Renaults are as good as any other of the main manufacturers cars. Live with it or sell it, either that or you bought a lemon and you are embarassed cause youre a thick f##ker!!!

 

[Jonto]

Probs in the same boat as you 172loony - i have driven alot of cars, and can recognise when something is better than what i have got, which is more that some people on this board can do !

 

[SHORTY]

billabong what a sh*t clio
i seen them at a renault dealer
i bet you think you are a real bad boy out in you car that does about 90mph flat out

 

[16V_Matt]

Quote: Originally posted by billabong on 20 April 2003

You really are a prick Shorty!!! Obviously short by name, short by nature. Shorty is obviously a dick who cant look after cars!!! Several of my friends have just bought new Clios too and we are all really happy with them, several of my other friends have older Renaults and dont have many problems either. Like I said get rid of the car, Renaults are as good as any other of the main manufacturers cars. Live with it or sell it, either that or you bought a lemon and you are embarassed cause youre a thick f##ker!!!

here here!

 

[SHORTY]

ha ha ha so you got the stupid clio billabong another sh*t go at making the clio interesting to the younger driver
they cant pull the skin of a rice pudding
w**k boy

HE HE HE