172 Cup driveshaft sourcing

[fixedgear]

To be fair,their regular 172 PH2 OE shaft
s are priced at £139 I/c.
Just seems be an anomaly with the cup ones.
Anyway,the J&R`s are £50 a pop,DS20 & 21,and as long as you can get them to go bang within 24 months,you will never need to pay for another.

Don't really want them going bang tbh. Could be a £300 day at the track down the swanny.

 

[Chris_Beer]

after i asked for that part number and the bloke was an arse saying it wasn't listed for my cup, and there wasn't a shaft listed for mine

(When you order quote these part numbers and not the registration of the car)

Don't really want them going bang tbh. Could be a £300 day at the track down the swanny.

To be fair anything could happen on a track day, luck of the draw but you should check/test the car a bit before hand anyway in my experience.

 

[fixedgear]

:wink:




To be fair anything could happen on a track day, luck of the draw but you should check/test the car a bit before hand anyway in my experience.

Of course but it is made to sound like these J&R are inferior parts and are cost effective due to failing before the warranty end date.

 

[Chris_Beer]

Indeed

Pay for what you get tbh. I am not expecting much but fed up of second hand "good" shafts off people that are scrap

 

[STEVE.M]

Have you fitted some to yours @STEVE.M
I ordered a ds21 for mine yesterday after i asked for that part number and the bloke was an arse saying it wasn't listed for my cup, and there wasn't a shaft listed for mine.
(It was the same bloke from the other day who said they didn't do them, not Lee)
And only charged £35

Chris_Beer did all the cup ground work with J&R,see post 23 on this thread.
I have a std PH2 172,so DS20/21 is not correct fitment for mine & I have been running a Shaftec drivers side for 10k now with no problems.

 

[STEVE.M]

Of course but it is made to sound like these J&R are inferior parts and are cost effective due to failing before the warranty end date.

If that was the case,J&R would have ceased trading some time ago.
I do know someone local to me who has had a pair of £25 shafts on his 1.2 clio for over two years now and they are going strong still.
I made the comment as a wry observation,not a prediction.

 

[flebay]

Of course but it is made to sound like these J&R are inferior parts and are cost effective due to failing before the warranty end date.

http://www.reviewcompany.co.uk/j-and-r-cv-joints-reviews/

 

[flebay]

https://en-gb.facebook.com/J-and-R-CV-Joints-and-Driveshafts-210671608976026/reviews/

 

[flebay]

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/285139-jr-driveshafts-avoid/

 

[fixedgear]

https://en-gb.facebook.com/J-and-R-CV-Joints-and-Driveshafts-210671608976026/reviews/

Love reading those disgruntled reviews. That poor woman is "discussed" by J&R :tongueclosed:

I think I might seek some shafts elsewhere..

 

[imprezaworks]

I'm still alive. Thought i'd share that.

 

[scotiamr2t]

Too many people read into the bad reviews. I have had J+R shafts on my track car for well over a year now with no issues at all. Also had them on numerous other cars with zero issues knee thousands of miles of motoring

 

[flebay]

Too many people read into the bad reviews. I have had J+R shafts on my track car for well over a year now with no issues at all. Also had them on numerous other cars with zero issues knee thousands of miles of motoring

 

[STEVE.M]

Too many people read into the bad reviews. I have had J+R shafts on my track car for well over a year now with no issues at all. Also had them on numerous other cars with zero issues knee thousands of miles of motoring

For every bad review,there are usually hundreds of satisfied customers,and I`m not convinced that some reviews are not being strategically placed by,how shall I put it,those with a vested interest,both good & bad.

 

[Chris_Beer]

Just to say mine arrived the next day (overnight)

However I haven't touched the car to fit them yet, but I saw the replies and thought i'd chuck up a couple of photos.

Only have a spare passenger shaft to compare to a standard item, measured and it's the same length for sure. Will get some of the drivers side once I pull it off the car.

Haven't tapped off the ABS rings yet either, but I noticed my standard shaft has one fitted, seen other Cup's with them too, odd.

 

[flebay]

Haven't tapped off the ABS rings yet either, but I noticed my standard shaft has one fitted, seen other Cup's with them too, odd.

They had the ABS rings on when they left the factory, i think they must fit something other than the 172 cup.

 

[STEVE.M]

However I haven't touched the car to fit them yet, but I saw the replies and thought i'd chuck up a couple of photos

I can never make the pics come out in the order I intended either.
I replaced the keyboard my dog trashed 2 nights ago by jumping on the table & knocking my beer over.
£6.99 from Argos & it works.

 

[STEVE.M]

They had the ABS rings on when they left the factory, i think they must fit something other than the 172 cup.

By elimination,PH1 possibly or some early Megane?

 

[Chris_Beer]

By elimination,PH1 possibly or some early Megane?

Parts bin, probably a Renault 4 lol

 

[STEVE.M]

Parts bin, probably a Renault 4 lol

Exactly.EPC should be in the public domain.

 

[fixedgear]

Just to say mine arrived the next day (overnight)

However I haven't touched the car to fit them yet, but I saw the replies and thought i'd chuck up a couple of photos.

Only have a spare passenger shaft to compare to a standard item, measured and it's the same length for sure. Will get some of the drivers side once I pull it off the car.

Haven't tapped off the ABS rings yet either, but I noticed my standard shaft has one fitted, seen other Cup's with them too, odd.

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Thanks for the images, the parts look good!

 

[fixedgear]

Just to say mine arrived the next day (overnight)

However I haven't touched the car to fit them yet, but I saw the replies and thought i'd chuck up a couple of photos.

Only have a spare passenger shaft to compare to a standard item, measured and it's the same length for sure. Will get some of the drivers side once I pull it off the car.

Haven't tapped off the ABS rings yet either, but I noticed my standard shaft has one fitted, seen other Cup's with them too, odd.

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Had a chance to get these fitted ?

 

[Chris_Beer]

Had a chance to get these fitted ?

Basically, I went to fit them, but was greeted with fresh fluid covering the whole hub / wheel arch area, which then started a puddle on the floor from one of my H&R Coilovers.

Planned to strip it all down and send them off for refurbishment, but I've spent an absolute fortune on it this month already so it's being ignored now lol. Going to be atleast a month or so before I can comment

 

[Akay]

Isnt the clip on the 'dry' shaft side the bit that hits the engine block?

 

[Chris_Beer]

Isnt the clip on the 'dry' shaft side the bit that hits the engine block?

Unsure if these do or not, but the ones people complained about before, it was this clip....................................................................^

 

[fixedgear]

Just ordered a pair from the least enthusiast bloke I have ever had the fortune to speak to.

 

[imprezaworks]

Lol from j&r? I had that pleasure.

First time I rang a chap was spot on and the lady too.

 

[fixedgear]

Lol from j&r? I had that pleasure.

First time I rang a chap was spot on and the lady too.

Yep.
Got a text saying they're on their way, so let's see what turns up!

 

[imprezaworks]

Be with you Tomo at a guess

 

[Chris_Beer]

I ordered at 1pm and arrived the next morning but the Alex bloke seemed very happy and helpful.

I love how I'm one of the first to order 172 cup wise recently but the last to fit

 

[STEVE.M]

@Chris_Beer @imprezaworks @midge @punk_rallye @bloke
The Shaftec application for 172 Cup is R209AR/AL as I have posted previously.
Looking on eBay,these shafts also fit Renault Megane 1.8,1.9,2.0L 96-03 & Scenic 1.8,1.9,2.0L 99-03.
I also found that Shaftec supply outer CV joint CV345AN for about £30,listed as Scenic.
This will presumably also fit Megane & 172/182,so if only your outer CV joint is toast,you do not to replace the whole shaft,which is a big advance on the close to £500 a pair for Renault shafts.
I have not put this into practise,so it is a very promising possibility at this moment.
I will check if my local Andrew Page has one in stock so I can compare shortly.

 

[STEVE.M]

I ordered at 1pm and arrived the next morning but the Alex bloke seemed very happy and helpful.

I love how I'm one of the first to order 172 cup wise recently but the last to fit 😧

I said it elsewhere,but the boot snagging problem with J&R does not apply to 172 Cup shaft without the RH support bearing.

 

[bloke]

gkn do the joint on it's own. not got part number to hand though sorry.

 

[STEVE.M]

gkn do the joint on it's own. not got part number to hand though sorry.

Thanks for that.CS folklore has been that only OE shafts are available.

 

[bloke]

they also do a shaft but had a bit of a mix up over the length and whether or not wider abs ring could be fitted for 182 cup so never got round to working it out if it could be done. was going to look into it again this week but the only guy at euro with a brain is in hospital.

 

[STEVE.M]

they also do a shaft but had a bit of a mix up over the length and whether or not wider abs ring could be fitted for 182 cup so never got round to working it out if it could be done. was going to look into it again this week but the only guy at euro with a brain is in hospital.

Having his brain removed?

 

[bloke]

heart attack from what i gather?

 

[STEVE.M]

[QUOTE="bloke, post: 11219061, member: 98854".[/QUOTE]
By they,did you mean GKN?
Correct me if I`m wrong,but 182 Cup RH shaft has a support bearing?The 172 Cup RH shaft does not.
J&R do 15mm ABS ring for £$2.50.

 

[bloke]

yup, gkn. when i checked the cv it didn't look like it was wide enough to take the wider abs ring but trying to get one sorted to physically try the wider ring on.

 

[Gseco]

@Chris_Beer @imprezaworks @midge @punk_rallye @bloke
The Shaftec application for 172 Cup is R209AR/AL as I have posted previously.
Looking on eBay,these shafts also fit Renault Megane 1.8,1.9,2.0L 96-03 & Scenic 1.8,1.9,2.0L 99-03.
I also found that Shaftec supply outer CV joint CV345AN for about £30,listed as Scenic.
This will presumably also fit Megane & 172/182,so if only your outer CV joint is toast,you do not to replace the whole shaft,which is a big advance on the close to £500 a pair for Renault shafts.
I have not put this into practise,so it is a very promising possibility at this moment.
I will check if my local Andrew Page has one in stock so I can compare shortly.

HI guys,

I've recently developed a clicking noise from the cv joint when on full lock. Renault here in Ireland are looking for €350 for drive shafts.

I'm just wondering if anyone has fitted these shaftec driveshafts? If so, how have they been? I can get them for €150 here in Ireland

http://www.micksgarage.com/search/d...o mk ii 1998 to 2005/2.0 16v sport (cb0m)/169

Will these fit my car? I've a 172 cup. Thanks guys.