172 - Ph1 or Ph2?

[Little Richie]

Evening all,

I'm in a position to buy another 172 but can't decide whether the Ph1 or 2 makes more sense for my long term plans of making it in to a track car once I get a company or second car - Bearing in mind that that's 18 months - 2 years away and that I'll be doing anything up to 100 miles a day depending on where work decide to send me.

At the moment my current pros & cons list looks like this:

Ph1 Pros:

• More aggresive street presence
• Cable throttle
• I think they look better
• I had one before
• £30 cheaper to tax (for the time being)

Ph1 Cons:

• Age
• Can look dated in some scenarios
• Finding a standard one
• Finding one that isn't silver

Ph2 Pros:

• Auto lights & Wipers (not fussed really but it is a plus)
• More modern looks
• ESP/TC
• Higher numbers of different colours
• Climate control has a slightly higher appeal over AC

Ph2 Cons:

• Looks like a dynamique
• Doesn't really stand out from the crowd
• Considered slower than a Ph1 in standard form
• The wheels

Any input from you guys? I'd be interested to know if anyone else has any pros/cons for either car and what you'd do.

Also, anyone reading who has a 172 that is, or is thinking of, selling with a FSH in good condition drop me a PM. I'll put an official wanted up this week once my expenses come in - they're only 2 weeks late...

Thanks for any input,
Mike.

 

[ForceIndia]

I've had both. I prefer the ph1, just more 'fun' to drive. TC/ESP is completely unnecessary!

 

[E11OOT]

i went from my 182 to a Ph1 172......

- ph1 is harder to get the most out of when driving, can't be as lazy.
- ph1 is geared longer, feels like you get more out of the torque of the car
- ph1 looks better
- ph1 rattles alot less than my 182
- i managed to find a standard one ( a little tricky)
- i managed to get one that wasn't silver (plenty around)

 

[Daniel]

If you're planning on turning it into a track car, buy a ph1. Infact, buy the cheapest thing you can get hold of!

Paying extra for the newer (And not as good to drive) phase 2 is a pointless exercise if you plan on taking it off the road for good.

 

[Djw John]

Ph1 mate, gotta be!

 

[DannoTheGreat]

^^^^ That

 

[Russ_16v]

Id say ph1 as i own one, but id say the best one you can find

 

[Martin_172]

ive owned both, ph1 is my favourite.

 

[Ridahz]

ive owned both, ph1 is my favourite.

+1

Do enjoy driving the PH2 though. Alot less effort but slower for sure.

 

[domjolly]

i went from my 182 to a Ph1 172......

- ph1 is harder to get the most out of when driving, can't be as lazy.
- ph1 is geared longer, feels like you get more out of the torque of the car
- ph1 looks better
- ph1 rattles alot less than my 182
- i managed to find a standard one ( a little tricky)
- i managed to get one that wasn't silver (plenty around)

are they the original exclusinve wheels????? been wanting to get a set of them for ages but they are never for sale and im not sure if anyone does a replica version of them!! nearly bought an exclusive myself but the interior put me off

 

[nth]

are they the original exclusinve wheels????? been wanting to get a set of them for ages but they are never for sale and im not sure if anyone does a replica version of them!! nearly bought an exclusive myself but the interior put me off

called BBS RV's, rare... so might be hard to find.

 

[E11OOT]

yeah original wheels, i didn't like the interior at start with but it has grown on me TBH.

 

[fUbAr]

I owned a Ph1 for 2 years, and a 182 for 3 years now...

I prefer the Ph1.

 

[Drew.]

i've just got a ph1, never had a ph2 but its epic, personally i think they look better too.

 

[Lagerlout]

Just comes down to budgeet for me. Get the best condition, lowest milegae, newest car for your money.

And I did lol @ "more aggresive street presesnce". Neither are particularly aggresive, but the ph1 looks like a little cuddle frog, with it's big bulbous healights!

 

[Whisker biscuit]

Its all about the ph1's, hang in there and the right one will come along.

Heres a few i found .......

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2001-Renault-...iewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4cef22d876

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CLIO-SPORT-17...iewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2eacacd522

U could tidy this thing up ....

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...ds/172/postcode/bt119df/radius/1500?logcode=p

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...ds/172/postcode/bt119df/radius/1500?logcode=p

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...ds/172/postcode/bt119df/radius/1500?logcode=p

knock yourself out

 

[Little Richie]

Just comes down to budgeet for me. Get the best condition, lowest milegae, newest car for your money.

And I did lol @ "more aggresive street presesnce". Neither are particularly aggresive, but the ph1 looks like a little cuddle frog, with it's big bulbous healights!

At least you can tell it's not a 1.2 after a quick glance...:rasp:

Does no one rate the Ph2 over the Ph1? I'm suprised by how one sided this has been but then I think I wanted a Ph1 but thought the Ph2 was the more logical purchase.

Once I finish working in Liverpool I'll be better able to look at travelling to view a car, I've only really being looking (fairly) locally but there does seem to be a few cheap 'uns about. (Dan, keep an eye out for me...)

Brown Bear, you're not thinking of selling are you? That's lovely

 

[Mells]

Driven both. Own a ph2.

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

I owned a Ph1 for 2 years, and a 182 for 3 years now...

I prefer the Ph1.

+1

Had a Phase 1 for 18 months and now have a 182 for 6 weeks, i also prefered the Phase 1, it just felt rawer and i dont care what anyone says, the fly by/cable throttle argument is considerably noticeable

 

[TimR26]

Ph2 without ESP

 

[Peperami]

172 cup for me. Original in blue without ac.

Drives so differently to the other clio's, much, much more fun

 

[ForceIndia]

172 cup for me. Original in blue without ac.

Drives so differently to the other clio's, much, much more fun

Maybe. But on our shitty, poorly surfaced, often damp roads, no ABS is a nonsense. And they way hardly less than a ph1, but you get to keep AC, ABS.

 

[Reev]

I'd go for a PH2 myself. Haven't driven either, just prefer the look of the PH2.

 

[Greeny.]

Ph1 all day long, hold out for a good one

 

[AndyWilde]

Ph2!! Much more modern lookin cars!!

 

[domjolly]

called BBS RV's, rare... so might be hard to find.

wish i could find a set of these i think i prefer them to the oz f1's wonder if renault still sell either the f1s or the BBS RV's??

 

[LeCar]

i went from my 182 to a Ph1 172......

- ph1 is harder to get the most out of when driving, can't be as lazy.
- ph1 is geared longer, feels like you get more out of the torque of the car
- ph1 looks better
- ph1 rattles alot less than my 182
- i managed to find a standard one ( a little tricky)
- i managed to get one that wasn't silver (plenty around)

^^ that is beautiful ^^^ (i like what you did there, green car against contrasting green background lol)

im really glad most people are reccommending the ph1. just something about the front end on these. so much more euro-esque. i love the headlights and the vents under them! imagine ^this^ a bit lower with a set of th-line's (or, secretly, a set of banded white 106 Rallye steelies, if they would fit )

if i do get one of these, it will be my first RS clio. at the minute, im honestly torn between a phase 1 R5 GT Turbo, an R5 Gordini Turbo, or one of these ^^^

 

[LeCar]

...BTW there is a nice 2 lady owner PH1, 30k FSH, but trader wants 4k for it :dapprove:

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